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RE: White Mage Story Idea - Knowingly that I'll be bashed for this. - Pumpkinweed - 09-25-2014
(09-25-2014, 02:41 PM)Erik Mynhier Wrote: Gus... you sly dog. You know you're my wife's favorite PC on balmung don't you. Even snipin' my rl lady.
RE: White Mage Story Idea - Knowingly that I'll be bashed for this. - Erik Mynhier - 09-25-2014
(09-25-2014, 02:50 PM)Sounsyy Wrote: But to be fair, we don't know many customs or the culture of Ala Mhigo, or Garlemald, or Doma, and yet we see many Roleplayers making characters from those nations. To be fair, there are a large number of roleplayers who don't even know the history, culture, or customs of our current nations. Much less follow them to a T.
Those I think are easier to guess on due to the glaring cultural similarities with real places, Ala Mhigo (nordic+Mesopotamian flavors), Garlemald (Rome with Dutch naming conventions), and Doma (Japan+pacific islands). While Amdapor strikes me more like the Western Civilization legend of Atlantic mixed with the Eastern Civilization legend of Mu.
Players can look at Rome and make an educated guess on how the DEVs will lay out Garlemald culture. But since Atlantis and Mu are fictional, there is nothing to draw an educated guess from as it is completely the creation of the said DEVs.
RE: White Mage Story Idea - Knowingly that I'll be bashed for this. - Sounsyy - 09-25-2014
While I don't disagree, these are all fictional places loosely inspired by a combination of real life cultures. We can guess all day, but never know for sure unless lore is released telling us specifics. But even when said lore is released, you're going to find a good population of roleplayers who aren't aware of it or just don't follow it. Which was my point. So I guess I think it's a tad unfair to caution a would-be Amdaporian on lack of lore, when (just using an example don't hate me this isn't an attack!) there may be say a Sultansworn RPer who doesn't know pertinent Ul'dah lore that may or may not relate to being a Sultansworn?
Like I'm sure most Sultansworn know who the founder of the Sultansworn is, and how long ago that was... but how many would be able to name the Sultan in charge before Nanamo? If your character has been a Sultansworn for at least a decade, that's pertinent to you. Likewise, not many people know who writes the laws by which the Sultanate is bound.
RE: White Mage Story Idea - Knowingly that I'll be bashed for this. - Kage - 09-25-2014
(09-25-2014, 03:58 PM)Sounsyy Wrote: there may be say a Sultansworn RPer who doesn't know pertinent Ul'dah lore that may or may not relate to being a Sultansworn?((Not to hi-jack this thread but... I totally sorta said 'no' to most of these >< Perhaps maybe you may be able to elaborate on something I also wanted to comment on in the "guide" thread?))
Like I'm sure most Sultansworn know who the founder of the Sultansworn is, and how long ago that was... but how many would be able to name the Sultan in charge before Nanamo? If your character has been a Sultansworn for at least a decade, that's pertinent to you. Likewise, not many people know who writes the laws by which the Sultanate is bound.
RE: White Mage Story Idea - Knowingly that I'll be bashed for this. - Aldotsk - 09-26-2014
As discussed, I did make a character who is Keeper in the end with the Elezen name implied  that her name was given Elezen instead of her tribal names while she resided in Amdapor. But considering that Sounsyy has mentioned, I might go with his/her theory about how the city fell apart. I'll give further updates.
RE: White Mage Story Idea - Knowingly that I'll be bashed for this. - Melkire - 09-26-2014
(09-25-2014, 03:58 PM)Sounsyy Wrote: While I don't disagree, these are all fictional places loosely inspired by a combination of real life cultures. We can guess all day, but never know for sure unless lore is released telling us specifics. But even when said lore is released, you're going to find a good population of roleplayers who aren't aware of it or just don't follow it. Which was my point. So I guess I think it's a tad unfair to caution a would-be Amdaporian on lack of lore, when (just using an example don't hate me this isn't an attack!) there may be say a Sultansworn RPer who doesn't know pertinent Ul'dah lore that may or may not relate to being a Sultansworn?
Like I'm sure most Sultansworn know who the founder of the Sultansworn is, and how long ago that was... but how many would be able to name the Sultan in charge before Nanamo? If your character has been a Sultansworn for at least a decade, that's pertinent to you. Likewise, not many people know who writes the laws by which the Sultanate is bound.
The trouble is that much of the pertinent lore that most roleplayers miss is either: A, not included in 2.0; B, passing mentions made by NPCs or in item descriptions; C, information made available online by developer comments, developer artwork, or in Lodestone releases. Â
For example, there is no one single source that one can refer to for Ul'dahn history (if there is, it is so poorly advertised that I'm not aware of it), let alone an inclusive "encyclopedia" that roleplayers can refer to for all things XIV-lore-related. Were there such organized, advertised, and readily available sources, learning - and remembering! - such details as the name of the sultan who preceded Nanamo would be a lot easier.
The RPC Wiki seems like an excellent resource for this sort of thing. If I had the time and energy to spare I would have liked to spearhead a collective effort from lore buffs to compile this information into pages and then provide a "Lore Table of Contents"... alas.
RE: White Mage Story Idea - Knowingly that I'll be bashed for this. - Sounsyy - 09-26-2014
(09-26-2014, 03:31 PM)Melkire Wrote: there is no one single source that one can refer to for Ul'dahn history (if there is, it is so poorly advertised that I'm not aware of it), let alone an inclusive "encyclopedia" that roleplayers can refer to for all things XIV-lore-related.
Yet.
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RE: White Mage Story Idea - Knowingly that I'll be bashed for this. - Yaaris - 09-26-2014
You are over complicating it. If your character has amnesia, does the extreme specifics of a past that will never be known even matter?
If you were really set on it, you could do a hyur from Amdapor and yeah, maybe some people who don't know the lore there wouldn't bat an eyelash. However lore nazis will always call you out on it for the rest of your days.
I'd just play an Elezen or Keeper if you don't want that to happen.
RE: White Mage Story Idea - Knowingly that I'll be bashed for this. - Aldotsk - 09-26-2014
(09-26-2014, 07:31 PM)Yaaris Wrote: You are over complicating it. If your character has amnesia, does the extreme specifics of a past that will never be known even matter?
If you were really set on it, you could do a hyur from Amdapor and yeah, maybe some people who don't know the lore there wouldn't bat an eyelash. However lore nazis will always call you out on it for the rest of your days.
I'd just play an Elezen or Keeper if you don't want that to happen.
It wouldn't be complicating it when I am indeed a keeper and has elezen name, so it is legit fine if I am right.
RE: White Mage Story Idea - Knowingly that I'll be bashed for this. - Yaaris - 09-26-2014
(09-26-2014, 07:41 PM)Aldotsk Wrote:Well there ya go. Sorry I started reading this thread in class, and it took something like 4 hours to reply because of how busy I was IRL and when I finally typed it out I was way behind the discussion without realizing it ^^;;(09-26-2014, 07:31 PM)Yaaris Wrote: You are over complicating it. If your character has amnesia, does the extreme specifics of a past that will never be known even matter?
If you were really set on it, you could do a hyur from Amdapor and yeah, maybe some people who don't know the lore there wouldn't bat an eyelash. However lore nazis will always call you out on it for the rest of your days.
I'd just play an Elezen or Keeper if you don't want that to happen.
It wouldn't be complicating it when I am indeed a keeper and has elezen name, so it is legit fine if I am right.