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RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - K'nahli - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 10:45 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:(04-17-2015, 10:44 AM)Clover Wrote: If I made such an Au Ra and came to Eorzea, I'd have neither a tribe nor a war; that's my concern.
To be fair, if your character did have a tribe and a war, you wouldn't be in Eorzea.
Warren, you're a total sausage.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - SicketySix - 04-17-2015
So is DRK a tanking class or melee dps?
please be dps
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Clover - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 10:45 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: To be fair, if your character did have a tribe and a war, you wouldn't be in Eorzea. I was under the assumption that those Au Ra who do show up from that tribeclanfaction are the ones specifically not engaging in battle or warfare.
Otherwise... you'd be there, not here. Kind of makes RP impossible.
That's correct, and that's exactly the problem, being forced to play a single kind of Au Ra. My initial hope was that some Au Ras could be living in the new lands beyond Ishgard, while others like Yugiri came from elsewhere. That way, there'd have been more possibilities RP-wise and we could have our war, haha.
In any case, I'll see what I can come up with for my two Au Ras.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - K'nahli - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 10:52 AM)Casden Reeves Wrote: So is DRK a tanking class or melee dps?
please be dps
Tank.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Warren Castille - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 10:51 AM)Knahli Wrote:I don't know what that mean.(04-17-2015, 10:45 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:(04-17-2015, 10:44 AM)Clover Wrote: If I made such an Au Ra and came to Eorzea, I'd have neither a tribe nor a war; that's my concern.
To be fair, if your character did have a tribe and a war, you wouldn't be in Eorzea.
Warren, you're a total sausage.
(04-17-2015, 10:52 AM)Casden Reeves Wrote: So is DRK a tanking class or melee dps?Tank. They protect the people from those who would exploit them. Sounds very familiar.
please be dps
(04-17-2015, 10:53 AM)Clover Wrote:(04-17-2015, 10:45 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: To be fair, if your character did have a tribe and a war, you wouldn't be in Eorzea. I was under the assumption that those Au Ra who do show up from that tribeclanfaction are the ones specifically not engaging in battle or warfare.
Otherwise... you'd be there, not here. Kind of makes RP impossible.
That's correct, but my initial hope was that some Au Ras could be living in the new lands beyond Ishgard, while others like Yugiri came from elsewhere. That way, there'd have been more possibilities RP-wise and we could have our war, haha.
In any case, I'll see what I can come up with for my two Au Ras.
They're nomads. Why not be from those lands? There's literally nothing stopping you going "Yep, ages ago this faction splintered off, and I'm from those people."
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - SicketySix - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 10:54 AM)Knahli Wrote:Dammit, where is my sword melee dps!?(04-17-2015, 10:52 AM)Casden Reeves Wrote: So is DRK a tanking class or melee dps?
please be dps
Tank.
And don't dare say rogue/ninja....
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Melodia - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 10:56 AM)Casden Reeves Wrote:Ninj...... er..... *whistles innocently and walks.....then bolts.*(04-17-2015, 10:54 AM)K Wrote:Dammit, where is my sword melee dps!?(04-17-2015, 10:52 AM)Casden Reeves Wrote: So is DRK a tanking class or melee dps?
please be dps
Tank.
And don't dare say rogue/ninja....
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Flickering Ember - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 06:32 AM)Sin Wrote:(04-17-2015, 06:20 AM)Ashren Snow Wrote: I might be a minority here but I don't know that I actually like the DRK lore. As a concept, I think it's pretty cool... but for Dark Knight? Not so much, there is not really anything "dark" about it and it honestly sounds more like Paladin than Paladin does. How do they explain DRK using dark magic if they are supposed to be a job that is dedicated to defending the weak? It just seems a bit strange to me.
Edit: That being said, I am incredibly excited for the lore on the Au Ra, now I just have to decide which I want to be. I wanted to give him black scales, but the lore for Raen suits him way more. D: Also I like how they kinda made a jab at everyone who thought they would be related to Shiva and a Dragon.
I had the same impression as I was reading it. Very gallant and chivalrous for a Dark Knight.
I mean comparing it to FFXI's version where you had to quench the thirst of your blade with the blood of one hundred foes.... This seems very just and righteous for a Dark Knight, but we'll have to see. They made very little mention of what form the Darkness takes or what its purpose is to these knights... I hope that's where we'll find their more dark flavor.
I was expecting it, given the route they took with thief rogue. The narrative in FFXIV seems to want to make it absolutely clear YOU/the PCs are good guys. At least outside of RP.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Gar - 04-17-2015
First and foremost, I'm really happy with what we know about Dark Knight. Paladin/Knight has been my schtick since I was a little geek kid discovering the world of Fantasy and RP. XIV's Paladin was super disappointing to me. Its great if you like/don't mind Ul'dah and certain aspects, but its so specific. I'm still enamored by the "do universal good for the world" sorta Paladin. (But yes, I could have gone more of the "Free Paladin" route, but I just didn't feel like it had enough oomph).
So I'm totally hopping on the band wagon and playing Dark Knight. Depending on how much mitigation I can drain from it, I might use it as my raid class, or if not just keep playing Paladin (hallelujah second combo coming!) and be a giant overcompensation sword wielding entity ICly.
Question about the Au Ra though. With the little morsel we know now, it seems like Au Ra could have easily been in Eorzea in small numbers for some time now, right? I don't plan on making one, but I know there's been a lot of debate whether they could be in a timeline pre-Heavensward. I guess to me this says that people wanting to re-work some characters without losing some of their precious memories/interactions with family and friends can pull something off. But is that how most people will see it, or will there still be people arguing with each other over character origins?
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Clover - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 10:55 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: They're nomads. Why not be from those lands? There's literally nothing stopping you going "Yep, ages ago this faction splintered off, and I'm from those people."
That's actually a possibility I'm considering, but I'm wary of bending the lore too much. I'll wait a bit and see, but yes, that possibility is definitely interesting to me.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - K'nahli - 04-17-2015
Clover said her problem was that, were she to create an Au Ra from that clan, then she'd have to write it off as though her tribe were not involved in any sort of war - if she were even still part of one.
Your response was basically citing this exact same problem as a reason why the lore won't work. It sounded like you were refuting her point by somehow using her own point when ultimately that only meant that you were both of the same understanding!
Hence, you are a silly sausage.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Martiallais - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 11:03 AM)Garryson Wrote: But is that how most people will see it, or will there still be people arguing with each other over character origins?
I think there'll always be people arguing over character origins one way or another. I believe we have a bit of wiggle room in regard to saying some characters may have been in Eorzea already in hiding. We've seen it done in the MSQ and while no one wants to be 'that character' it's a possibility that's definitely there IMO.
Also am I the only one who gets a sort of...potential Asmodian/Elyos kind of rivalry feel from the two Au Ra groups?
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Warren Castille - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 11:05 AM)Knahli Wrote: Clover said her problem was that, were she to create an Au Ra from that clan, then she'd have to write it off as though her tribe were not involved in any sort of war - if she were even still part of one.
Your response was basically citing this exact same problem as a reason why the lore won't work. It sounded like you were refuting her point by somehow using her own point when ultimately that only meant that you were both of the same understanding!
Hence, you are a silly sausage.
Well, yes, but Nunhs. If you're going to play one, you should have a good reason why you're not doing the lore-expected thing you should be doing. Those Au Ra are warlike and fight their tribal battles. If you want to do that, you won't be in Eorzea. So don't roll that character...? I see your point, but this is definitely PEBKAC.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Martiallais - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 11:10 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:(04-17-2015, 11:05 AM)K Wrote: Clover said her problem was that, were she to create an Au Ra from that clan, then she'd have to write it off as though her tribe were not involved in any sort of war - if she were even still part of one.
Your response was basically citing this exact same problem as a reason why the lore won't work. It sounded like you were refuting her point by somehow using her own point when ultimately that only meant that you were both of the same understanding!
Hence, you are a silly sausage.
Well, yes, but Nunhs. If you're going to play one, you should have a good reason why you're not doing the lore-expected thing you should be doing. Those Au Ra are warlike and fight their tribal battles. If you want to do that, you won't be in Eorzea. So don't roll that character...? I see your point, but this is definitely PEBKAC.
Idunno, I think it'd be kind of another nice aspect to bring those same tribal battles with you to Eorzea. In that aspect, the Au Ra aren't too different/far removed from some of the current races who have only been at peace with each other for a (relatively) short time.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Warren Castille - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 11:12 AM)Zarek Wrote: Idunno, I think it'd be kind of another nice aspect to bring those same tribal battles with you to Eorzea. In that aspect, the Au Ra aren't too different/far removed from some of the current races who have only been at peace with each other for a (relatively) short time.
Would certainly work, but that's effectively making FC vs FC kind of stuff and isn't something you can do solo.