(09-22-2015, 01:03 AM)Val Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:59 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:51 AM)Val Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:48 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:43 AM)Aaron Wrote: In short your feedback is it's not a good idea.

90% of your rp would be you getting barraged with questions on how youre a vampire when vampires dont exist.

Which tbh i don't think IC anyone would know vampire don't exist or exist because its not one of those common sense topics.

But what do i know.

i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol

That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do

That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

(09-22-2015, 12:59 AM)Caspar Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:34 AM)Aya Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:19 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: i put fire and their primary weakness. and i guess the usual decapitation and stake to the heart shouldve included that oops. didnt wanna put sunlight as a weakness since that had more to do with religious superstition since sun is holy and vamps are "unholy" along with crosses etc etc

All that jazz about holy water, sunlight, and the cross, that's just silly superstition!  We'll stick to stakes, decapitation, and fire, and maybe the whole sleeping in the soil of their homeland thing.

Excuse me. The most important vampire weakness is clearly needing to count every bean thrown in front of them. It's just not appropriate to vampire lore otherwise!!! XD

It's a little known fact that this is at least one part an accurate portrayal of a vampire.



You could play him.

(09-22-2015, 01:06 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:03 AM)Val Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:59 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:51 AM)Val Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:48 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol

That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do

That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

(09-22-2015, 01:07 AM)Aaron Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:06 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:03 AM)Val Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:59 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:51 AM)Val Wrote: That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do

That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

(09-22-2015, 01:07 AM)Aaron Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:06 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

(09-22-2015, 01:06 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:03 AM)Val Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:59 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:51 AM)Val Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:48 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol

That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do

That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

(09-22-2015, 01:07 AM)Aaron Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:06 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:03 AM)Val Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:59 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:51 AM)Val Wrote: That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do

That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

(09-22-2015, 01:07 AM)Aaron Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:06 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:03 AM)Val Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:59 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:51 AM)Val Wrote: That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do

That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

(09-22-2015, 01:09 AM)Caspar Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:07 AM)Aaron Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:06 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

That's actually a good point though. How would the term show up if there was no creature named "vampire" in the world? Is the vampire plant the only thing to have the name? If so, were vampires to show up in the lore, would they be named after the plant?

I'm clearly overthinking this. I should be farming eso.

(09-22-2015, 01:10 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:07 AM)Aaron Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:06 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:03 AM)Val Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 12:59 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do

That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

neither are all vampires in different lore. in A Certain Magical Index they are magical beings descended from Cain who are the same as humans but with greater magical potential and mages steal their hearts to create weapons since they dont stop beating and essentially provide infinite power. among other examples

(09-22-2015, 01:13 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: [quote pid=213344 dateline=1442898472]
and not all vamps r evil das racist bruh lol in vampire diaries they were created with a nature spell too.

(09-22-2015, 01:16 AM)Aaron Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:10 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:07 AM)Aaron Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:06 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:03 AM)Val Wrote: That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

neither are all vampires in different lore. in A Certain Magical Index they are magical beings descended from Cain who are the same as humans but with greater magical potential and mages steal their hearts to create weapons since they dont stop beating and essentially provide infinite power. among other examples

Yes but the term vampire isnt necessarily tied to your version as Val said.

It could be something created to ascertain that specific plant.

Pretty sure leopards werent called leopards because of something already existing.

(09-22-2015, 01:27 AM)Teadrinker Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:13 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: [quote pid=213344 dateline=1442898472]
and not all vamps r evil das racist bruh lol in vampire diaries they were created with a nature spell too.

(09-22-2015, 01:28 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:16 AM)Aaron Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:10 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:07 AM)Aaron Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:06 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

neither are all vampires in different lore. in A Certain Magical Index they are magical beings descended from Cain who are the same as humans but with greater magical potential and mages steal their hearts to create weapons since they dont stop beating and essentially provide infinite power. among other examples

Yes but the term vampire isnt necessarily tied to your version as Val said.

It could be something created to ascertain that specific plant.

Pretty sure leopards werent called leopards because of something already existing.

well the word leopard comes from greek and latin roots meaning lion + panther since it was believed to be a hybrid species, which it isnt but the name stuck. so literally it means panther-lion. so yes they were called leopards based on something already existing lol