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RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - -no longer matters- - 11-27-2015

Look you people can slam WoW because it's "cool" to do, all you want. 

But not one of you can say FFXIV does raiding or dungeons or PvP better, Even the WoW world map felt larger because you could travel to one end to the other without a load screen.

So bash it all you want it still has a leg up on XIV in some areas (admittedly XiV has better Graphics and story.) 

On a personal level I felt WoWs races were more interesting, and better conceived than the races of XIV (Yes even the Pandaren.)

The only thing XIV does better that keep me subbed here is RP,and that's the community not the game, though TBH that's even wavering.

So before you bash the game that made a game like this possible; because the internet tells you it's cool to do. Sit down and think; WoW did a lot of stuff right, and still does. Just because you grew apart from it, (hell even I did. I can't see myself ever being Hardcore in it again.) doesn't mean you have to bash it, and make fun of those that still do enjoy it.

RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - -no longer matters- - 11-27-2015

(11-27-2015, 11:39 AM)allgivenover Wrote:
(11-27-2015, 04:15 AM)Isse Takayama Wrote: The one thing. ONE THING I like about WoW over this game is the lack of a global cooldown. As a healer, that goddamn global cooldown just makes me want to strangle a dolphin sometimes. I log onto WoW and heal something and go holy shit what is going on I press a button and the thing happens? I still haven't gotten over it. I press my buttons while playing FF like if I press them faster the GCD will fuck off. It never does. My wrists hurt.


Having to think a few moments ahead rather than spam buttons to keep people alive can be a little inconvenient I guess.
An efficient player of any game that doesn't have XIV's GCD system has to think faster to play more effectively. XIV's system doesn't make you think anymore than any MMO combat system (If anything it's a safety net for people with slower motor skills.), and trying to fool yourself into thinking so is pretty ..well foolish.

RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Maik90 - 11-27-2015

I started with WoW since ~1Month befor BC (Burning Crusade) release.
Played and loved it so much .. until Cataclysm release i quit with WoW.
I tried every new Addon that came out but played not longer then ~2month.
Now i'm not sure if i should try Legion because i'm pretty sure i'm done with WoW.
Also i begun a few days befor with FF14 and i really like it so far.

RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Parth Makeo - 11-27-2015

(11-27-2015, 01:50 AM)Oli! Wrote:
(11-27-2015, 01:32 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:
(11-27-2015, 01:25 AM)Oli! Wrote: Did you explicitly state it wasn't the Dragonwrath?

Because if not, that may have been the problem.

She was on Wyrmrest Accord.  It wouldn't have mattered.

I never had a problem on WRA personally, which is why I asked.

I've seen some weird shit, though.
No. It wasn't Dragonwrath. I had an MRP that talked about the staff in look for more detail and i figured the very big and ornate look of it would serve as a better model for it. Like it had branches on it shaped like Ram Horns, a gourd hanging off, wind chimes and so on. A gift from her master shortly before she left and before the third war started. There is nothing overpowering with the staff and much like how Arala uses the current weapons in her RP (relic weapons + shiny shield) they are merely just looks and the shield (which has been reformed after some RP) was a hand me down from her father. Again i do not reference that they are THE relics and just use them for looks. 

But i am getting off track. My time on WRA was savage...Some got off easy because well...they didn't play a Night Elf Mage early in Cata. It wasn't until that era that RP started to plummit big time. Even my cousin who got into RP in general because of me (And funny enough plays Halo a lot) can agree that the quality has spiraled down in RP.

p.s: This artwork in the spoiler WAS going to be my character at some point but when I got it commissioned i long sinced moved from RP in wow and said to make it as my character in wow now. Yep. Same person who did Arala's artwork.
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RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Parth Makeo - 11-27-2015

(11-27-2015, 11:48 AM)Gwen Belmont Wrote: So before you bash the game that made a game like this possible; because the internet tells you it's cool to do. Sit down and think; WoW did a lot of stuff right, and still does. Just because you grew apart from it, (hell even I did. I can't see myself ever being Hardcore in it again.) doesn't mean you have to bash it, and make fun of those that still do enjoy it.
Thank you Gwen.

RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Lucius Ignatius - 11-27-2015

Yup, definitely. I intend to try a DH in some capacity. Not sure about the race yet. I will note that I am not as attached to WoW as I used to be--it feels the development quality hasn't been the greatest since WOTLK. I didnt like much of what came after BC, but by no means is BC my favorite expac. It just seems the company cuts corners when they could develop something so much more. I'm not even trying to hate on them; thats just how I honestly feel.

I am fairly curious where the lore will eventually end up.

RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - -no longer matters- - 11-27-2015

(11-27-2015, 12:46 PM)Kiht Wrote: Yup, definitely. I intend to try a DH in some capacity. Not sure about the race yet. I will note that I am not as attached to WoW as I used to be--it feels the development quality hasn't been the greatest since WOTLK. I didnt like much of what came after BC, but by no means is BC my favorite expac. It just seems the company cuts corners when they could develop something so much more. I'm not even trying to hate on them; thats just how I honestly feel.

I am fairly curious where the lore will eventually end up.
DH does look REALLY cool, but the changes to Guardian Druid has me most pumped, no more dodge bear, now I'm a wall of bring it! (really most of the class changes look really good so far.)

RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Parth Makeo - 11-27-2015

(11-27-2015, 01:01 PM)Gwen Belmont Wrote:
(11-27-2015, 12:46 PM)Kiht Wrote: Yup, definitely. I intend to try a DH in some capacity. Not sure about the race yet. I will note that I am not as attached to WoW as I used to be--it feels the development quality hasn't been the greatest since WOTLK. I didnt like much of what came after BC, but by no means is BC my favorite expac. It just seems the company cuts corners when they could develop something so much more. I'm not even trying to hate on them; thats just how I honestly feel.

I am fairly curious where the lore will eventually end up.
DH does look REALLY cool, but the changes to Guardian Druid has me most pumped, no more dodge bear, now I'm a wall of bring it! (really most of the class changes look really good so far.)
Guardian Druids? More like...MUTHA FUCKIN ROCK BEAR!
[Image: guardianDruidArtifactForm02.jpg]

RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - -no longer matters- - 11-27-2015

(11-27-2015, 01:12 PM)Parth Makeo Wrote:
(11-27-2015, 01:01 PM)Gwen Belmont Wrote:
(11-27-2015, 12:46 PM)Kiht Wrote: Yup, definitely. I intend to try a DH in some capacity. Not sure about the race yet. I will note that I am not as attached to WoW as I used to be--it feels the development quality hasn't been the greatest since WOTLK. I didnt like much of what came after BC, but by no means is BC my favorite expac. It just seems the company cuts corners when they could develop something so much more. I'm not even trying to hate on them; thats just how I honestly feel.

I am fairly curious where the lore will eventually end up.
DH does look REALLY cool, but the changes to Guardian Druid has me most pumped, no more dodge bear, now I'm a wall of bring it! (really most of the class changes look really good so far.)
Guardian Druids? More like...MUTHA FUCKIN ROCK BEAR!
[Image: guardianDruidArtifactForm02.jpg]
I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!  I am so never going to skin my Relic Weapon past that point!!!!

RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - V'aleera - 11-27-2015

(11-27-2015, 11:48 AM)Gwen Belmont Wrote: On a personal level I felt WoWs races were more interesting, and better conceived than the races of XIV

Cosmetically, sure, that's a valid opinion. But in terms of writing, near half of them have been completely abandoned since inception.

RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Cailean Lockwood - 11-27-2015

WoW was my first MMO and I played from The Burning Crusade to mid Cataclysm, then again from mid Mists of Pandaria to start of Warlords of Draenor...
I started because of Blood Elves. LOVED them! And I was a Warlock, because I've always loved the demonic aspect of fantasy games. Being a Demon Hunter would be one of the coolest things that ever could happen!

But you know what? I stopped playing WoW for a reason. And sadly, a new cool class wouldn't be enough for me to go back to that game, even though it is THE class!

The game is just not fun to me anymore.

RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - allgivenover - 11-27-2015

(11-27-2015, 11:50 AM)Gwen Belmont Wrote:
(11-27-2015, 11:39 AM)allgivenover Wrote:
(11-27-2015, 04:15 AM)Isse Takayama Wrote: The one thing. ONE THING I like about WoW over this game is the lack of a global cooldown. As a healer, that goddamn global cooldown just makes me want to strangle a dolphin sometimes. I log onto WoW and heal something and go holy shit what is going on I press a button and the thing happens? I still haven't gotten over it. I press my buttons while playing FF like if I press them faster the GCD will fuck off. It never does. My wrists hurt.


Having to think a few moments ahead rather than spam buttons to keep people alive can be a little inconvenient I guess.
An efficient player of any game that doesn't have XIV's GCD system has to think faster to play more effectively. XIV's system doesn't make you think anymore than any MMO combat system (If anything it's a safety net for people with slower motor skills.), and trying to fool yourself into thinking so is pretty ..well foolish.

How is having to avoid locking yourself out of being able to time your heals correctly a safety net? GCD isn't a safety net, it actually makes everything MORE difficult, not less.

I raid healed in WOW Wrath and XIV through Final Coil. In WOW I just had to stand in the right spots and make sure I had strong enough heals to make it, in XIV I had to plan ahead.

RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Caspar - 11-27-2015

(11-27-2015, 01:26 PM)V Wrote:
(11-27-2015, 11:48 AM)Gwen Belmont Wrote: On a personal level I felt WoWs races were more interesting, and better conceived than the races of XIV

Cosmetically, sure, that's a valid opinion. But in terms of writing, near half of them have been completely abandoned since inception.
Maybe they just really, really like orcs.

On a more serious note though, I know a lot of people like to hate on WoW and I thought it looked perfectly fine. Maybe it's because I haven't played it that I'm so tolerant of the things that piss people off about FFXIV. The only time I've ever been truly bored of this game was WanPal farm days.

And yeah, longer gcd only feels long if there's nothing to occupy you in the interim. Which there is. Of course, easy content doesn't demonstrate that as well as the consequences for careless gcd usage aren't severe.

RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - -no longer matters- - 11-27-2015

(11-27-2015, 01:41 PM)allgivenover Wrote:
(11-27-2015, 11:50 AM)Gwen Belmont Wrote:
(11-27-2015, 11:39 AM)allgivenover Wrote:
(11-27-2015, 04:15 AM)Isse Takayama Wrote: The one thing. ONE THING I like about WoW over this game is the lack of a global cooldown. As a healer, that goddamn global cooldown just makes me want to strangle a dolphin sometimes. I log onto WoW and heal something and go holy shit what is going on I press a button and the thing happens? I still haven't gotten over it. I press my buttons while playing FF like if I press them faster the GCD will fuck off. It never does. My wrists hurt.


Having to think a few moments ahead rather than spam buttons to keep people alive can be a little inconvenient I guess.
An efficient player of any game that doesn't have XIV's GCD system has to think faster to play more effectively. XIV's system doesn't make you think anymore than any MMO combat system (If anything it's a safety net for people with slower motor skills.), and trying to fool yourself into thinking so is pretty ..well foolish.

How is having to avoid locking yourself out of being able to time your heals correctly a safety net? GCD isn't a safety net, it actually makes everything MORE difficult, not less.

I raid healed in WOW Wrath and XIV through Final Coil. In WOW I just had to stand in the right spots and make sure I had strong enough heals to make it, in XIV I had to plan ahead.
Raiding in XiV is a joke sir. No competitive raiding community takes XIV raiding seriously. Heroic Raiding in WoW (Now Mythic) is far more difficult than anything this game as thrown at you, and if you really want intense skill based raiding Wildstar had the hardest raiding I've ever encountered. (Another game you can't just stand there and heal.) Just because this game forces more movement than WoW did in WotLK does not make the GCD system make the game harder, it's only because you have to move more. (even then it's laughable to say XIV raiding is harder than WoW heroic (Mythic) modes.)

RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Warren Castille - 11-27-2015

He's not wrong, though. It's very easy to heal in the wrong order and kill a tank through neglect. The argument of comparative difficulty also is entirely relative: easier does not imply something is easy to begin with.