(10-09-2014, 08:09 PM)R.Delacroux Wrote:

(10-09-2014, 05:46 PM)TheLastCandle Wrote: Eventually. Probably. Yes.

Eventuallyyyyy..

(10-10-2014, 12:10 PM)ArmachiA Wrote: It was definitely SE's way around Japan's very very prudish nature about Same Sex Marriage (And homosexuals in general). At first they weren't even going to allow Same Sex Marriage, stating their home country wouldn't like it (In around about way) but you know, slap a new name on it and pretend it's something else, people stop freaking out so much ("Civil Unions")

(10-10-2014, 12:55 PM)Blue Wrote:

(10-10-2014, 12:10 PM)ArmachiA Wrote: It was definitely SE's way around Japan's very very prudish nature about Same Sex Marriage (And homosexuals in general). At first they weren't even going to allow Same Sex Marriage, stating their home country wouldn't like it (In around about way) but you know, slap a new name on it and pretend it's something else, people stop freaking out so much ("Civil Unions")

Right, but if we look at the developers as GMs, Yoshida's statement should support the lore of this ritual as not being exclusive of romantically involved couples. I think it would only be fair, honestly... Romance should not be a key requirement to be eternally bound.

In many fantasy tales you see lots of characters that have a form of "eternal bond" relationship without being romantically involved. Sometimes it's siblings, other times it's comrades. 

I am not going to say that romantic couples who do Eternal Bond shouldn't call each other's "husband" and/or "wife" (those titles are already used by NPCs in the game, though it's nowhere specified what kind of ritual they used to marry), but at the same time Eternal Bond shouldn't be kept away from other types of couples who want to make an oath to each other to display their devotion and love in all its many facets.

(10-10-2014, 11:18 AM)Blue Wrote: Yoshida's repeated calls to not compare Eternal Bond to "marriage" or to not call it that way makes me think that this ritual does not pertain only romantic relationships (and frankly, I prefer it that way, since it allowed for same-gender players to partake to it without rising protests of differently politically inclined players).

I imagine it may also be taken for Eternal Bonds of brotherhood, for example, or loyal friendship as well... you know, all that kind of relationships that includes love but no sexual exchanges.

In this latter case, I can already think of a couple characters among my roster that may exchange Eternal Bond with their respective loyal adventuring partners.

(10-10-2014, 12:55 PM)Blue Wrote:

(10-10-2014, 12:10 PM)ArmachiA Wrote: It was definitely SE's way around Japan's very very prudish nature about Same Sex Marriage (And homosexuals in general). At first they weren't even going to allow Same Sex Marriage, stating their home country wouldn't like it (In around about way) but you know, slap a new name on it and pretend it's something else, people stop freaking out so much ("Civil Unions")

Right, but if we look at the developers as GMs, Yoshida's statement should support the lore of this ritual as not being exclusive of romantically involved couples. I think it would only be fair, honestly... Romance should not be a key requirement to be eternally bound.

In many fantasy tales you see lots of characters that have a form of "eternal bond" relationship without being romantically involved. Sometimes it's siblings, other times it's comrades. 

I am not going to say that romantic couples who do Eternal Bond shouldn't call each other's "husband" and/or "wife" (those titles are already used by NPCs in the game, though it's nowhere specified what kind of ritual they used to marry), but at the same time Eternal Bond shouldn't be kept away from other types of couples who want to make an oath to each other to display their devotion and love in all its many facets.

(10-12-2014, 01:41 AM)TheLastCandle Wrote:

(10-10-2014, 12:55 PM)Blue Wrote:

(10-10-2014, 12:10 PM)ArmachiA Wrote: It was definitely SE's way around Japan's very very prudish nature about Same Sex Marriage (And homosexuals in general). At first they weren't even going to allow Same Sex Marriage, stating their home country wouldn't like it (In around about way) but you know, slap a new name on it and pretend it's something else, people stop freaking out so much ("Civil Unions")

Right, but if we look at the developers as GMs, Yoshida's statement should support the lore of this ritual as not being exclusive of romantically involved couples. I think it would only be fair, honestly... Romance should not be a key requirement to be eternally bound.

In many fantasy tales you see lots of characters that have a form of "eternal bond" relationship without being romantically involved. Sometimes it's siblings, other times it's comrades. 

I am not going to say that romantic couples who do Eternal Bond shouldn't call each other's "husband" and/or "wife" (those titles are already used by NPCs in the game, though it's nowhere specified what kind of ritual they used to marry), but at the same time Eternal Bond shouldn't be kept away from other types of couples who want to make an oath to each other to display their devotion and love in all its many facets.

Now I want this to happen.

(10-10-2014, 08:38 AM)Berrod Armstrong Wrote:

(10-10-2014, 08:25 AM)ArmachiA Wrote: The one thing I've never done is gotten married ICly. 11 years of rping in MMOs and I always chickened out and broke up the engagements through the story before they went anywhere. I may be afraid of IC commitment.

It seems scary to me. Wouldn't RP get stale and boring once your married? This is a serious question and not at all a slight on marriage RP. I really want to know, how does it work?

Hmm! As someone who has played his character in a relationship for a year going (IC ups and downs aside), I can say that it's only as stale as a roleplayer makes it. It's up to us to keep things interesting and challenge ourselves -- no one is gonna do that for us. 

A married couple being  forced into battle together (or similar strife) can be a platform for powerful, emotional scenes. Hell, at the moment I'm in skype with Caleb roleplaying a fight against a bunch of thugs -- and it's SO MUCH MORE interesting because of their bond. The mutual concern for each other, the spikes of rage when one sees the other getting hurt, the fear of the other one being grievously harmed...and you know what? A ring on the finger and the status of 'lul married' isn't going to change that at all, unless we as players let it. 

If there's someone you trust enough and enjoy enough to provide your character a partner along with an interesting time, go for it! Only if you REALLY want to, of course!

(10-09-2014, 03:06 PM)Nebbs Wrote: I am hoping yes to IC use

(10-09-2014, 08:36 PM)Jaques Wrote: Not ICly... Especially with how it got pushed back to 2.45. Since Jaques & Vaughn were set on it being a date that meant a lot two of them.... we'd have to push things back another year if we wanted to use their anniversary of getting together as the date. Yes its sappy shut up

(10-10-2014, 08:25 AM)ArmachiA Wrote: The one thing I've never done is gotten married ICly. 11 years of rping in MMOs and I always chickened out and broke up the engagements through the story before they went anywhere. I may be afraid of IC commitment.

It seems scary to me. Wouldn't RP get stale and boring once your married? This is a serious question and not at all a slight on marriage RP. I really want to know, how does it work?