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RE: Interaction of Multiple Free Companies - Erik Mynhier - 03-27-2015
(03-27-2015, 05:30 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote: Bolded for empasis.
[quote=Erik Mynhier pid=158786 dateline=1426623639]
The goal of this Summit is to bring together active Free Companies of Balmung to meet, interact, story plan, settle issues, and foster cooperation with other FCs for larger activities.
Yes that is the wording, and intent. But I think when those are read some assume it to be a macro server control. I will break it down as best as I can. My feeling, and I think if people are entitled to be rightfully suspicious of the intent through experience, then I am entitled to believe several have allowed their suspicions to cause them to automatically think the worse. I understand that I am an optimistic person and most are not. Let me clarify. Again this is a FC event, not a Balmung Control event. The point is to help FCs especially small ones, and to make contacts.
Story Plan - "Hey, our FC does "XYZ" and we were wanting to do a storyline with "ABC". Anyone want in?"
Story planning between two or three FCs is actually fairly common. I know the Red Wings have done a few, as have others I'm sure. It is exactlly what it says, a way to advertise your FC and to seek some multi-fc rp. If two or three FCs got together to spitball an Multi-FC RP on the Making Connections forum, no one would bat an eye. I understand the size of the event makes some nervous, and I am sorry for that. But if you come at it with a "glass half full" eye you will see that its not some server wide plot as it is not a server wide event. Its a FC event.
Settle Issues - "Can anyone help us build Airships?"
I went over this in the last post so I will leave it at that.
Foster Cooperation - "Anyone need anything? We can help."
This one is the scariest to people I noticed. I am not sure why. This is just those with some, helping those who need help. I do not see why anyone would not want to foster cooperation to help with problems people have. I will give you an example, and yes you can go behind me and ask to be sure I'm not lying lol. There is no housing available on Balmung as you all know, so newer and smaller FCs are basically SOL. So in that I found a FC rping one day and overheard they were new and in need of a hub. So I approached and offered the use of the RWs house. They could come and go as they liked, and ic/pretend it was their house. It was something I could do to help out someone in need. That is fostering cooperation. To check my story I will not post here their names, but a quick PM and I will tell you where to find them.
Larger Activities - "If we are going to go.... lets go big.
Again I think this is inturpetted two ways based on whether your glass is half full or half empty. It sort of goes to the other three. Cooperating to help eachother, helping a fc settle issues and problems they are having, and planning rps between similar themed FCs, I suppose if I squint I can see where all that could be twisted, but again my glass is half full and I take it at face value.
Its really boils down to those who assume the worst and those who assume the best. That I think is the point of conflict here.
RE: Interaction of Multiple Free Companies - Kellach Woods - 03-27-2015
Story Plan
All right, I can get behind that. But why do you need to hold a summit to do that? Can just post within the current resources. I don't see the need to try and get every FC possible to go along with this. Just "Yo we're at this spot in our FC's story and we want to collaborate with some other FCs" on this forum or in other resources.
The goal for this is laudable - I just don't see why you need to hold a summit for it.
Settle Issues
Again, why can't you use current resources to do that? PF's been used for ALL sorts of unrelated party finding things and Making Connections could easily serve for that purpose. I wouldn't even consider building an airship being part of Settling Issues and more part of Fostering Cooperation. And why limit these to only FCs like you're doing by proposing it at that summit anyway? To me that makes no sense at all.
Just the fact that there's Issues to Settle to me seems fishy as all hell when you could just remove that talking point (to be fair, all talking points but Fostering Cooperation because they pretty much mean the same thing with your definitions).
To me, it just sounds like you're trying too hard to find problems where there aren't many to justify the position.
Foster Cooperation
Why not just rename this Sharing Resources because that's the example you give out - If help isn't to come from just resources, that's touched by your other points anyway.
Larger Activities
Dismissing other people's concerns by saying it's just a optimist/pessimist debate is pretty much the worst thing to happen to this discussion.
Just on a functionality standpoint - you're already discussing it in your first point. Why repeat yourself? A lot of these could be rolled together and explained better because they are essentially the same thing.
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Overall I just don't see it as necessary in the way it's currently being made, but as I said on page 3, w/e. This'll happen whether I'm there or not, and there's absolutely no way I would even get a voice on this. All I can pretty much do is hope that this doesn't fuck over my enjoyment of the RP community.
RE: Interaction of Multiple Free Companies - V'aleera - 03-27-2015
(03-27-2015, 07:02 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: To me, it just sounds like you're trying too hard to find problems where there aren't many to justify the position.I'd say this applies just as fairly to pretty much everyone partaking in this argument.
RE: Interaction of Multiple Free Companies - Kellach Woods - 03-27-2015
Yeah I was actually hesitating on putting that in the post or not - I just think the whole process could stand to be simplified for a better overall event.
RE: Interaction of Multiple Free Companies - Erik Mynhier - 03-27-2015
(03-27-2015, 07:40 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: Yeah I was actually hesitating on putting that in the post or not - I just think the whole process could stand to be simplified for a better overall event.
Well I understand the idea that this could all be done a simpler way or with say the Making Connections thread, I absolutely agree with you. But this way of doing it is more fun then skimming a forum. It comes down to where as it seems unnecessary to some, to others it is worth it for the fun of getting together. Its that old piece wisdom man, "Now the world don't move to the beat of just one drum. What might be right for you, may not be right for some."
Now for my position, and me "ignoring different opinions" and "trying to derail based on turning it into a optimism vs pessimism" I suppose I am, but only because I believe as strongly that it is the underlying issue. Just as firmly as those against feel that this is a mistake or that I or others have ulterior motives" Others are entitled to that opinion, as much as I am to have mine.
I hope that came out respectful. I tried to word it as best I could, but lack of inflection you know.
RE: Interaction of Multiple Free Companies - Parvacake - 03-27-2015
(03-27-2015, 08:03 PM)Erik Mynhier Wrote: (Stuff)
I hope that came out respectful. I tried to word it as best I could, but lack of inflection you know.
I think you've done just fine and you've spoken on this as best you can. Those who are reading too much into this and looking for fault or problems when the whole thing is more OOC then IC...well, that's their issue. Not yours. Let them bitch. Just focus on helping things go smoothly and all shall be well
RE: Interaction of Multiple Free Companies - Kellach Woods - 03-27-2015
I don't think the event will actually cause anything new to happen, but just might exacerbate already existing problems.
'cause quite frankly if you stick to just wanting to help out I don't think that'll cause anything bad.
RE: Interaction of Multiple Free Companies - Erik Mynhier - 03-27-2015
(03-27-2015, 08:15 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: I don't think the event will actually cause anything new to happen, but just might exacerbate already existing problems.
'cause quite frankly if you stick to just wanting to help out I don't think that'll cause anything bad.
That's the plan. I know things can go hairy in any situation, but I tend to expect the best in people. Granted I have been burned with that attitude before, recently even, but I still hold hope in people.
Edit: Lol, bold faced the part I was answering so no one thought "the plan" was to "exacerbate already existing problems". lol
RE: Interaction of Multiple Free Companies - Chris Ganale - 03-27-2015
It says a lot that I, being the biggest pessimist around, still have more faith in this than most around here.
(03-27-2015, 08:15 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: I don't think the event will actually cause anything new to happen, but just might exacerbate already existing problems.
If even one person has their RP broadened by this event, I am relatively certain that Erik will consider it a complete and utter success.
RE: Interaction of Multiple Free Companies - Kellach Woods - 03-27-2015
Keep in mind the originally stated goals and how it's supposed to happen - if only one person is helped, then it's like... what happened to the other FC rep that was with them?
RE: Interaction of Multiple Free Companies - Erik Mynhier - 03-27-2015
(03-27-2015, 09:42 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: Keep in mind the originally stated goals and how it's supposed to happen - if only one person is helped, then it's like... what happened to the other FC rep that was with them?
I believe, at least I thought "if only one person is helped" is a common expression. I believe it was meant as a colloquialism.
RE: Interaction of Multiple Free Companies - Kellach Woods - 03-27-2015
THAT WAS THE JOKE.
RE: Interaction of Multiple Free Companies - Dante Abigor - 04-24-2015
Wow....smells like salt and sulfur in this thread.
That said though, I hope to attend if possible, I just do not know who may be coming with me, if any at all.
RE: Interaction of Multiple Free Companies - Warren Castille - 04-24-2015
(04-24-2015, 12:10 AM)Dante Abigor Wrote: Wow....smells like salt and sulfur in this thread.
That said though, I hope to attend if possible, I just do not know who may be coming with me, if any at all.
You're going to want the thread over here then. This one was a discussion that broke off of the original topic.
RE: Interaction of Multiple Free Companies - SicketySix - 04-24-2015
I had just found it funny that at the start of this idea, one of the goals was to discuss with FC's about providing more open RP outside of housing etc so it would be easier for others to get involved, but the first thing that this meeting does is lock themselves back into their housing. Not that there is anythign wrong with that, just found the irony funny.
Also, and i may be totally wrong, and will probably use the wrong word for it, but it seems to have a slight "elitism" aire about it.