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RE: Non-Adventurers and the Quicksand - Kellach Woods - 07-19-2014
(07-16-2014, 03:31 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote: If we're talking IC-wise, it seems that anyone who goes out into the wilds in search of fortune can plausibly call themselves an adventurer. We can joke about the "adventurers' license" one receives from signing on with the Guild, but realistically, if your character calls him or herself an adventurer, then they are one. Whether people accept that or not IC depends on the tales you tell, abilities you exhibit, and such.The "license" has more to do with the authorities likely wanting to know who in the hell is passing through their town and what exactly they're capable of (so they can contract them or watch them or etc.)
I have a hard time not RPing the adventurer aspects. Although I guess if I actually levelled my Lala so it can say BRD I could start having him move from town to town and tell stories.
RE: Non-Adventurers and the Quicksand - Berrod Armstrong - 07-20-2014
And now I know who the OP was talking about. Enjoying a lovely rant of his as I type this. Sigh.
RE: Non-Adventurers and the Quicksand - Sounsyy - 07-20-2014
(07-20-2014, 06:26 AM)Berrod Armstrong Wrote: And now I know who the OP was talking about. Enjoying a lovely rant of his as I type this. Sigh.
Tell him his mother is a hamster and his father smells of elderberries. That should sort him!
Or that lore farts in his general direction.
RE: Non-Adventurers and the Quicksand - Kage - 07-20-2014
(07-20-2014, 06:26 AM)Berrod Armstrong Wrote: And now I know who the OP was talking about. Enjoying a lovely rant of his as I type this. Sigh.
He go off on other non adventurer's in the Quicksand?
RE: Non-Adventurers and the Quicksand - Roswyn - 07-20-2014
(07-20-2014, 06:26 AM)Berrod Armstrong Wrote: And now I know who the OP was talking about. Enjoying a lovely rant of his as I type this. Sigh.
Im'a firing my brain canon.
RE: Non-Adventurers and the Quicksand - LiadansWhisper - 07-20-2014
(07-20-2014, 12:24 PM)Roswyn Wrote:(07-20-2014, 06:26 AM)Berrod Armstrong Wrote: And now I know who the OP was talking about. Enjoying a lovely rant of his as I type this. Sigh.
Im'a firing my brain canon.
No!
You mean Mana Cannon! Â >.>
RE: Non-Adventurers and the Quicksand - Kage - 07-20-2014
*cough* Yamato Cannon *cough*
RE: Non-Adventurers and the Quicksand - Faye - 07-20-2014
My general view was that the Adventurer's Guilds are for adventurers, but anyone could make use of the tavern. (Seriously, what tavern would turn away business for such a derp reason? How do you even know someone is an adventurer? Do you get your certified adventuring license renewed each year after you pass your adventuring test?) There's nothing in the quest lines about the AG's being strictly for adventurers, and quite to the contrary you see non-adventurers there on several occasions.Â
I don't think these people were trolling, just assholes--I think they're lore-nazis who try to push their interpretation of it onto other role-players while, ironically, being completely wrong and off base. It's a sad day when lore-nazis aren't even close to correct about the lore. You could call it a "misunderstanding," I suppose, but that seems to paint them in a more innocent light when in reality their OOC behavior is inexcusable. If you believe something another person does breaks the lore (which in this case, it doesn't) and that upsets you, you don't make jabs at them OOC. You don't tell them they're role-playing "wrong" and they need to role-play "right." You walk away and find someone with more similar ideas to role-play with.
RE: Non-Adventurers and the Quicksand - Kage - 07-20-2014
I think it's sorta sad... but apparently he's been getting more exposure with people in Ul'dah / Quicksand.
I'm highly suspicious of the fact that he's the one who had trolled several Wikis and has a very strict rigid view of the AG and the Sultansworn.Â
It's so sad how... stilted the views this person has on lore is.
RE: Non-Adventurers and the Quicksand - Kellach Woods - 07-20-2014
I've played with people who stuck so adamantly to the lore that they outright refused to RP with anyone that would sport any sort of deviation, even if it was allowed by the MMO's game system.
At the very least, however, they were knowledgeable about the lore.
This guy's got no clue tho.
RE: Non-Adventurers and the Quicksand - TheLastCandle - 07-20-2014
I know exactly who this person is. By far the most argumentative, belligerent, and hard-headed "roleplayer" on the server. Not naming any names, of course, but my advice is to blacklist, without looking back, if you come across not just him but anyone who thinks it's okay to try to shame, belittle, or otherwise act as he does. You won't be missing out on anything of value. Trust me.
RE: Non-Adventurers and the Quicksand - Mae - 07-20-2014
(07-20-2014, 03:01 PM)Faye Wrote: Â How do you even know someone is an adventurer? Do you get your certified adventuring license renewed each year after you pass your adventuring test?)Momodi knows because she casts a special spell that changes her eyesight; every time she looks at a person, their name and adventuring status is floating above their heads.
Anyways, I again point out the following dialogue, from an NPC in the Quicksand that is blatantly an employee OF the Quickand:
Papasu: Hello there, traveler. Have you tried any dishes at the Quicksand yet? Nothing prepares you for a day of adventuring like a hearty meal, you know!
>What would you like to know?
>Option: Why is it called "The Quicksand"?
Papasu: Have a look around you─all manner of folk get caught in the lure of the Quicksand! They gather here to meet and mingle with one another.
Papasu: 'Course, you adventurers are less like to linger long. Aye, your kind is not unlike sand itself─the more tightly we try to hold on to you, the easier it is for you to slip through our fingers...
Papasu: Oh, I know all about your type. My husband used to be an adventurer, you know. Oh, he was quite a gallant hero way back when. But his days of derring-do are but a distant memory now─aye, and his strapping physique as well. <sigh>
As far as I'm concerned, there's lore verification RIGHT THERE in the Quicksand that is accessible at any time and by anyone that says everyone's welcome there (and if you wanna be strict... lore that says adventurers shouldn't be hanging around much). So, yeah, this guy gives anyone a hard time, fire the blacklist cannon.
RE: Non-Adventurers and the Quicksand - Kellach Woods - 07-20-2014
Although "shouldn't" is more because adventurers are wont to go out there and do shit.
If you're chilling in the Quicksand at all times chances are you are not an adventurer.
RE: Non-Adventurers and the Quicksand - Yune - 07-21-2014
(07-20-2014, 04:31 PM)TheLastCandle Wrote: I know exactly who this person is. By far the most argumentative, belligerent, and hard-headed "roleplayer" on the server. Not naming any names, of course, but my advice is to blacklist, without looking back, if you come across not just him but anyone who thinks it's okay to try to shame, belittle, or otherwise act as he does. You won't be missing out on anything of value. Trust me.
I don't know anything about the person in question, but I'm starting to get the impression that there are just a lot of bad apples around the Quicksand in general... A random person in that area tonight just completely spoiled my mood with his rude and belligerent attitude, especially since he was accusing me of being the one who was rude.
Does anyone else consider a random poke a sure sign or indicator that someone is "waiting"/wanting to talk to you? I failed to notice it immediately since I was working on my wiki profile at the time (not to mention the person in question wasn't anywhere in the area when I looked around/hadn't said a single word in say/tell to me), and later got into some IC convos outside of the Quicksand. Lo and behold, I get a tell from Mr random poker calling me rude since he was waiting to talk to me from the start, who then proceeds to guilt trip me for not noticing him and talking to others instead. The other details of that circumstance is likely more befitting the Romance thread down below but... Why does anyone consider behavior like that okay?
RE: Non-Adventurers and the Quicksand - T'shina - 07-21-2014
That would mean a lot of people can't go RP in what is an RP hotspot in Ul'dah.
But in the first few moments of being around you see in the Quicksand itself a loan shark getting ready to take out a guy with his lackeys and I'm pretty sure they aren't part of the Adventurer's Guild.