(09-22-2015, 01:57 AM)Moon Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:56 AM)McBeefâ„¢ Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:52 AM)SessionZero Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:51 AM)McBeefâ„¢ Wrote: Isn't the Haukke manor lady sort of a vampire.

She's a succubus, which is not the same thing as a vampire.

They're both not real wizard ghost demon people.

But one is clearly in the game, and the other is not. Hence the argument against vampires.

(09-22-2015, 02:00 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: not in game yet. keyword yet. u have everything else literally in mythology but vamps is overstepping boundaries? lol hell zodiark might have his warriors of darkness drink blood and aether for all we know

(09-22-2015, 02:00 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:57 AM)Moon Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:56 AM)McBeefâ„¢ Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:52 AM)SessionZero Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:51 AM)McBeefâ„¢ Wrote: Isn't the Haukke manor lady sort of a vampire.

She's a succubus, which is not the same thing as a vampire.

They're both not real wizard ghost demon people.

But one is clearly in the game, and the other is not. Hence the argument against vampires.

not in game yet. keyword yet. u have everything else literally in mythology but vamps is overstepping boundaries? lol hell zodiark might have his warriors of darkness drink blood and aether for all we know

(09-22-2015, 02:00 AM)Faye Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 02:00 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: not in game yet. keyword yet. u have everything else literally in mythology but vamps is overstepping boundaries? lol hell zodiark might have his warriors of darkness drink blood and aether for all we know

Not overstepping boundaries, just being presumptuous imo.

(09-22-2015, 01:58 AM)McBeefâ„¢ Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:57 AM)Moon Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:56 AM)McBeefâ„¢ Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:52 AM)SessionZero Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:51 AM)McBeefâ„¢ Wrote: Isn't the Haukke manor lady sort of a vampire.

She's a succubus, which is not the same thing as a vampire.

They're both not real wizard ghost demon people.

But one is clearly in the game, and the other is not. Hence the argument against vampires.

Maybe they're all hiding in their coffins. 

Or turned into bats.

what if they turned into bats and can't figure out how to turn back.

The bats in Qarn suck your blood. QED vampires are in the game.

(09-22-2015, 02:10 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:58 AM)McBeef™ Wrote: Maybe they're all hiding in their coffins. 

Or turned into bats.

what if they turned into bats and can't figure out how to turn back.

The bats in Qarn suck your blood. QED vampires are in the game.

that sounds like a comedic origin story i like it lol

(09-22-2015, 02:12 AM)McBeefâ„¢ Wrote: My character was bitten by a void tainted vampire bat in Qarn, and became Eorzea's first Vampire.

(09-22-2015, 02:05 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 02:00 AM)Faye Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 02:00 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: not in game yet. keyword yet. u have everything else literally in mythology but vamps is overstepping boundaries? lol hell zodiark might have his warriors of darkness drink blood and aether for all we know

Not overstepping boundaries, just being presumptuous imo.

its presumptuous to set tight limits on a game with........ everything that violates the laws of nature and physics and an ever expanding story lol before 3.0 it was thought the war of the magi wiped out all the mages but here comes Void Ark. and from a gamer persepective au ra didnt exist till 3.0. from a gamer perspective not lore and the lore was added after 3.0 so its not entirely impossible in the long run im just brainstorming ways it could be implemented before SE officially denies it or confirms it in a later expansion

(09-22-2015, 02:19 AM)Faye Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 02:05 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 02:00 AM)Faye Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 02:00 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: not in game yet. keyword yet. u have everything else literally in mythology but vamps is overstepping boundaries? lol hell zodiark might have his warriors of darkness drink blood and aether for all we know

Not overstepping boundaries, just being presumptuous imo.

its presumptuous to set tight limits on a game with........ everything that violates the laws of nature and physics and an ever expanding story lol before 3.0 it was thought the war of the magi wiped out all the mages but here comes Void Ark. and from a gamer persepective au ra didnt exist till 3.0. from a gamer perspective not lore and the lore was added after 3.0 so its not entirely impossible in the long run im just brainstorming ways it could be implemented before SE officially denies it or confirms it in a later expansion

There's this weird mentality some people (who are arguing in favor of something probably not fitting for the setting) have that just because there's magic in a world, or sometimes even simply if a setting is fictional, that anything goes and that "the laws of nature and physics" don't apply. That's not the case. Fiction is grounded in reality. We should assume that most things operate in XIV just as they do in the real world until/unless given evidence otherwise. SE may not tell us that Midlanders need oxygen to live, but if someone suffocates my character, she's probably gonna pass out/die, because until we're presented with evidence otherwise, it makes the most sense to assume things work as they do in real life.

And yes, vampires could be implemented in the future, or they could not, or SE could add flying pigs into the game that are called "vampires." We don't know if vampires will ever be added, and we certainly don't know what they'll be like if they are. We don't know if they'll be something sensible to play (for example, we know well enough what Primals are--that doesn't mean it's a good idea to make your character a Primal). At this point, you are simply presuming, hence being presumptuous.

(09-22-2015, 02:12 AM)McBeefâ„¢ Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 02:10 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 01:58 AM)McBeef™ Wrote: Maybe they're all hiding in their coffins. 

Or turned into bats.

what if they turned into bats and can't figure out how to turn back.

The bats in Qarn suck your blood. QED vampires are in the game.

that sounds like a comedic origin story i like it lol

My character was bitten by a void tainted vampire bat in Qarn, and became Eorzea's first Vampire.

(09-22-2015, 02:31 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: presuming that something cant exist is also presumptuous and it goes back to my original post which is speculating how it could be implemented in the game. clearly nobody is going to rp a primal but its not far fetched to rp a vamp since u have everything else thats humanoid. instead of saying its impossible maybe try and be open minded? and lets take a look at one of these fictions grounded in reality:

DRK quest summary: my dark impulses take on a life of their own and become a literal physical embodiment of my anger and frustration. soooo emotions literally came to life and i had to slash it with a sword and absorb it back into me and now i have magical split personality disorder.

(09-22-2015, 02:34 AM)Faye Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 02:31 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: presuming that something cant exist is also presumptuous and it goes back to my original post which is speculating how it could be implemented in the game. clearly nobody is going to rp a primal but its not far fetched to rp a vamp since u have everything else thats humanoid. instead of saying its impossible maybe try and be open minded? and lets take a look at one of these fictions grounded in reality:

DRK quest summary: my dark impulses take on a life of their own and become a literal physical embodiment of my anger and frustration. soooo emotions literally came to life and i had to slash it with a sword and absorb it back into me and now i have magical split personality disorder.

I never once said vampires could not exist. I never once said it was impossible.

(09-22-2015, 02:19 AM)Aya Wrote:

(09-22-2015, 02:12 AM)McBeefâ„¢ Wrote: My character was bitten by a void tainted vampire bat in Qarn, and became Eorzea's first Vampire.

So that's how you're going to bring Natalie back...