Quote:Contrary to popular belief, both males and females exist...though it can be nigh on impossible to tell the two genders apart. Not only do they have similar outward appearances, but there does not even exist the concept of male and female names amongst the tribe. Even the Amalj’aa themselves have trouble distinguishing between the two sexes, but to them, this is not that high of a priority. Perhaps Brotherhood of Ash warleader Hamujj Gah says it best when he reminds you that to his people, “tribe, clan, gender--these details matter not.”

When it does matter (as during the mating season), however, biology takes over, with both males and females excreting unique scents which help, let’s say, reduce the possibility of an accident.

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Contrary to popular belief, both males and females exist...though it can be nigh on impossible to tell the two genders apart. Not only do they have similar outward appearances, but there does not even exist the concept of male and female names amongst the tribe. Even the Amalj’aa themselves have trouble distinguishing between the two sexes, but to them, this is not that high of a priority. Perhaps Brotherhood of Ash warleader Hamujj Gah says it best when he reminds you that to his people, “tribe, clan, gender--these details matter not.”

When it does matter (as during the mating season), however, biology takes over, with both males and females excreting unique scents which help, let’s say, reduce the possibility of an accident.

(07-24-2014, 02:33 PM)ExKage Wrote: This thread? http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/168780-Beast-Tribe-Naming-Conventions-I

Quote:Contrary to popular belief, both males and females exist...though it can be nigh on impossible to tell the two genders apart. Not only do they have similar outward appearances, but there does not even exist the concept of male and female names amongst the tribe. Even the Amalj’aa themselves have trouble distinguishing between the two sexes, but to them, this is not that high of a priority. Perhaps Brotherhood of Ash warleader Hamujj Gah says it best when he reminds you that to his people, “tribe, clan, gender--these details matter not.”

When it does matter (as during the mating season), however, biology takes over, with both males and females excreting unique scents which help, let’s say, reduce the possibility of an accident.

Accidents? :O T_T

(07-24-2014, 03:44 PM)Gaspard Wrote: I usually don't think about it too much. I think Gender equality was pretty much established in the game the moment they've made every single leader of the three main cities a female. In regards to us, that'd be like America, Russia and Korea all having Female Presidents/Leaders.

So I'd say that Eorzea has no true Gender Roles (Given that females occupy so many vast and different roles, in a way, just as various as the ones that males do), and you can find both sexes in each type of job, faction and the likes. It's probably a matter of choice for many whether they adhere to old values of Chivalry (and likewise the females of their nurturing responsibility towards men and children), or whether they adopt more divergent philosophies.

The only ones that come loaded with a good degree of Gender Roles and Gender Inequality would be both Miqo'te sects. Seekers run a straight Patriarchy, where 'Big Daddy' Aka the Nunh has all the say and the rest is there to serve him/serve the pack, and likewise Keepers run a straight matriarchy, where you may very well consider it an Amazon like society, with men serving as little more then the walking child dispensers, and perhaps boys to be emotionally pampered by mommy, never burdened with the responsibility to become leaders as it's not in their nature. But beyond those two, I can hardly see any Gender Roles and/or differences being present in Eorzea, except for what singular Characters might consider their own opinion on it.

(07-24-2014, 04:06 PM)TheLastCandle Wrote:

(07-24-2014, 03:44 PM)Gaspard Wrote: I usually don't think about it too much. I think Gender equality was pretty much established in the game the moment they've made every single leader of the three main cities a female. In regards to us, that'd be like America, Russia and Korea all having Female Presidents/Leaders.

So I'd say that Eorzea has no true Gender Roles (Given that females occupy so many vast and different roles, in a way, just as various as the ones that males do), and you can find both sexes in each type of job, faction and the likes. It's probably a matter of choice for many whether they adhere to old values of Chivalry (and likewise the females of their nurturing responsibility towards men and children), or whether they adopt more divergent philosophies.

The only ones that come loaded with a good degree of Gender Roles and Gender Inequality would be both Miqo'te sects. Seekers run a straight Patriarchy, where 'Big Daddy' Aka the Nunh has all the say and the rest is there to serve him/serve the pack, and likewise Keepers run a straight matriarchy, where you may very well consider it an Amazon like society, with men serving as little more then the walking child dispensers, and perhaps boys to be emotionally pampered by mommy, never burdened with the responsibility to become leaders as it's not in their nature. But beyond those two, I can hardly see any Gender Roles and/or differences being present in Eorzea, except for what singular Characters might consider their own opinion on it.

I can't help but find that last paragraph a rather.. oversimplified view of both Miqo'te cultures' workings, but I agree with everything else. Certainly with gender equality being the 'norm' in most of Eorzea. Even Ishgard has its share of female knights serving in the ranks, judging from NPC representation.

Quote:"Nunh status does not equate to leadership within a tribe, and in fact, very few nunh ever become leaders."

(07-24-2014, 04:19 PM)Zyrusticae Wrote: So, in summary: the answer is aether. magic.

(07-24-2014, 04:20 PM)ExKage Wrote: I... we just had a several page or posts-worth of discussion that snowballed...

because Seekers -aren't- governed by Nunhs typically. It's in the lore that

Quote:"Nunh status does not equate to leadership within a tribe, and in fact, very few nunh ever become leaders."

This is not mean to derail but... just because lore says that Keepers are Matriarchal does not mean that Seekers are Patriarchal.

(07-24-2014, 04:19 PM)Zyrusticae Wrote: Those of you who've done the Amal'jaa beastman quests may have noted that, with the merchant goods recovery quest, he questions how you managed to carry multiple large crates of goods all that way. The answer is obvious: you're superhuman thanks to your insane talent with all things aether (which also explains why you can train any class and any job with equal effectiveness), which may or may not be related to the blessing of Hydaelyn et al. Kind of a Mary Sue/Chosen One style of explanation, but that's how the PC works in this universe, and it's probably the reason why gender equality is actually a thing here (I mean, besides just being a nice thing to have IRL).

So, in summary: the answer is aether.