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RE: The IC/OOC boundary and how to approach it the SMILE way - Verad - 02-08-2015

How to Avoid:

Do Not Roleplay.

There you go.

RE: The IC/OOC boundary and how to approach it the SMILE way - Lost River - 02-08-2015

But Verad! Lost just put on her Wizard Hat and Robe on!


On a serious note; Verad does have a point, but it all comes with a prime statement between all players regardless of it. 

The dividend of maturity varies between players in what aspects they put in their role-play and their ability to separate themselves from their character/role they're playing/acting.

There will always be a hint of your persona or at least personal touch in any character you portray; you do what is fun. Drama will happen both IC and OOC, the best way is to find ways to approach and deal with it instead of forcing yourself fully from the situation; that tends to be the best way when its completely out of control.

Always step to the side, count to ten and recollect yourself. Look at all angles of the situation when regarding multiple parties and also, don't be so prideful to say its always their fault nor so defeating its always your's. If either of those truths are real, something is wrong.

In short, its all about fun. And when you are not having fun, there is no point. If your fun does not match other's fun, find other people to play with.

RE: The IC/OOC boundary and how to approach it the SMILE way - Hyakki - 02-09-2015

Would this be a relevant topic for this thread?

Given the recent 'Seeking MRP' threads, I have to wonder why they label themselves as Mature Roleplayers. I am wary of anyone who would label themselves as such when past encounters have been anything but.

Mature roleplay does not have to be violent or sexual in nature but some people think the only definition of mature is of the 'Rated M' variety.

My interpretation of mature roleplay is roleplay where the themes, actions, and consequences are discussed/played out/handled in a mature manner OOC by all parties involved (mature roleplay does not mean the characters have to be mature). In a sense, we should all be mature roleplayers.

Unfortunately, some people think they're sly and use the label as a means to solicit ERP without looking trashy (spoilers: you look trashy) and/or an excuse to be the edgiest edgelord this side of Edgeville.

RE: The IC/OOC boundary and how to approach it the SMILE way - Narcisseoix - 02-09-2015

(02-03-2015, 01:42 AM)Edvyn Wrote: JK rowling is not harry potter

there's your boundary Cool

There are some very eloquent points, and methods/tips suggested in this thread.  I, however, must reiterate this particular one.  I am Eric, not Narcisseoix, and Narcisseoix is Narcisseoix, not Eric. If you can just drive that home you'll be good to go!

RE: The IC/OOC boundary and how to approach it the SMILE way - g0ne - 02-09-2015

(02-09-2015, 05:41 AM)Mamushi Wrote: Would this be a relevant topic for this thread?

Given the recent 'Seeking MRP' threads, I have to wonder why they label themselves as Mature Roleplayers.

My interpretation of mature roleplay is roleplay where the themes, actions, and consequences are discussed/played out/handled in a mature manner OOC by all parties involved (mature roleplay does not mean the characters have to be mature). In a sense, we should all be mature roleplayers.

Unfortunately, some people think they're sly and use the label as a means to solicit ERP without looking trashy. (spoilers: you look trashy)

Correct. We should display a fine sense of maturity in RP. Level headed and cool thinking are two very important tools in that aspect. 

And conversation. Very important magical thingy, that! As mentioned by pretty much everyone in the thread. Remember, CONVERSE! 

I get the feeling the two are linked. Only a person with a collected methodology of thinking would go into conversation and try and avoid repercussions of any sort, or rectify any misunderstandings. Immature people tend to flare up and go bonkers for little to no reasons. (Like children. That's why you almost never call a 5 year old a mature person Surprise )

But, erm, I'm not sure I understood what you mean by the spoliers in your last sentence. Undecided

RE: The IC/OOC boundary and how to approach it the SMILE way - Hyakki - 02-09-2015

(02-09-2015, 06:37 AM)Eleni Wrote: But, erm, I'm not sure I understood what you mean by the spoliers in your last sentence. Undecided
Its just a pet peeve of mine. Players that use the term 'mature' but seek rp of a sexual nature almost exclusively are trashy in my opinion. Its like a prostitute calling themselves an escort to make what they do seem legitimate.

(I was supposed to go to bed hours ago, I apologize if this response is unclear.)

RE: The IC/OOC boundary and how to approach it the SMILE way - Berrod Armstrong - 02-09-2015

(02-09-2015, 08:11 AM)Mamushi Wrote:
(02-09-2015, 06:37 AM)Eleni Wrote: But, erm, I'm not sure I understood what you mean by the spoliers in your last sentence. Undecided
Its just a pet peeve of mine. Players that use the term 'mature' but seek rp of a sexual nature almost exclusively are trashy in my opinion. Its like a prostitute calling themselves an escort to make what they do seem legitimate.

(I was supposed to go to bed hours ago, I apologize if this response is unclear.)
Juuuuuuust as an aside, that statement is a bit uh. Well, offensive. Escorts/sex workers in general are legitimate in areas where they are legal. The career is no less legitimate than any other, as it's up to the worker to decide what they do with their bodies. This is speaking as someone who has willingly worked in the sex industry.

If someone wants to label sexual roleplay as 'mature', there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, so long as they clarify what they mean when communication opens. I understand that it might be a pet peeve of yours, but it's not really any reason to rag on some people's careers because of it. 

On the topic at hand regarding that sort of player -- if that's what they are seeking, and it's what they are communicating they are seeking, that's actually not bad (barring the actual content they wish to explore). They have their OOC intent, and they are stating it prior to opening roleplay with another person; who, because of the communication involved, will need to consent. At that point they are both responsible for what goes on in their little bubble, and it's none of our business.

RE: The IC/OOC boundary and how to approach it the SMILE way - Warren Castille - 02-09-2015

I think there's a distinction between ERP and MRP. ERP is what it says on the tin: roleplay that's focused on eroticism. Mature RP tends to be a different take on that: RP where sexy times might happen, and where the scene won't necessarily fade to black like you get in vanilla RP.

There's nothing wrong with people flagging themselves as being open to that. Let's give some folks benefit of the doubt that any threads labeling people as MRPers are just putting out the sign they're open to it, and not sketchy craigslist "WoL seeks 18yo catgurl in heat" kind of posts.

RE: The IC/OOC boundary and how to approach it the SMILE way - Berrod Armstrong - 02-09-2015

(02-09-2015, 09:32 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: "WoL seeks 18yo catgurl in heat"
new skype status ahoooyyyy

RE: The IC/OOC boundary and how to approach it the SMILE way - SicketySix - 02-09-2015

(02-09-2015, 09:32 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: I think there's a distinction between ERP and MRP. ERP is what it says on the tin: roleplay that's focused on eroticism. Mature RP tends to be a different take on that: RP where sexy times might happen, and where the scene won't necessarily fade to black like you get in vanilla RP.

There's nothing wrong with people flagging themselves as being open to that. Let's give some folks benefit of the doubt that any threads labeling people as MRPers are just putting out the sign they're open to it, and not sketchy craigslist "WoL seeks 18yo catgurl in heat" kind of posts.
True, but even if the latter is true, it's the way they want to play, and honestly, doesn't hurt anyone

I say let them have their way and if you don't want to RP into that, then don't.

And this is not aimed at you, Warren. Just the topic in general.

RE: The IC/OOC boundary and how to approach it the SMILE way - Warren Castille - 02-09-2015

(02-09-2015, 09:39 AM)Amon Vespar Wrote: True, but even if the latter is true, it's the way they want to play, and honestly, doesn't hurt anyone

I say let them have their way and if you don't want to RP into that, then don't.

And this is not aimed at you, Warren. Just the topic in general.

I gotcha. Was mostly wanting to dismantle the "you look trashy" side of things. There's a difference between "I'm open to sexual content" and "fill my boihole with billions of cat seeds."

...you know what? Not editing that. COME AT ME, MODS.

Edit: I lied. Again, not saying there's anything wrong with the second case. It's definitely a lot cruder than "I fuck on the first date" though.

RE: The IC/OOC boundary and how to approach it the SMILE way - SicketySix - 02-09-2015

(02-09-2015, 09:42 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(02-09-2015, 09:39 AM)A Wrote: True, but even if the latter is true, it's the way they want to play, and honestly, doesn't hurt anyone

I say let them have their way and if you don't want to RP into that, then don't.

And this is not aimed at you, Warren. Just the topic in general.

I gotcha. Was mostly wanting to dismantle the "you look trashy" side of things. There's a difference between "I'm open to sexual content" and "fill my boihole with billions of cat seeds."

...you know what? Not editing that. COME AT ME, MODS.

Edit: I lied. Again, not saying there's anything wrong with the second case. It's definitely a lot cruder than "I fuck on the first date" though.
Oh man, I had a witty answer to whatever was replied, but I underestimated the clever use of "boihole" and "cat seed" haha.

RE: The IC/OOC boundary and how to approach it the SMILE way - Berrod Armstrong - 02-09-2015

(02-09-2015, 09:54 AM)A Wrote:
(02-09-2015, 09:42 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(02-09-2015, 09:39 AM)A Wrote: True, but even if the latter is true, it's the way they want to play, and honestly, doesn't hurt anyone

I say let them have their way and if you don't want to RP into that, then don't.

And this is not aimed at you, Warren. Just the topic in general.

I gotcha. Was mostly wanting to dismantle the "you look trashy" side of things. There's a difference between "I'm open to sexual content" and "fill my boihole with billions of cat seeds."

...you know what? Not editing that. COME AT ME, MODS.

Edit: I lied. Again, not saying there's anything wrong with the second case. It's definitely a lot cruder than "I fuck on the first date" though.
Oh man, I had a witty answer to whatever was replied, but I underestimated the clever use of "boihole" and "cat seed" haha.
I was serious and indignant a few posts ago and now I'm guffawing like some kind of tool. Warren I can't stand you I just think you should know this omg my sides

RE: The IC/OOC boundary and how to approach it the SMILE way - g0ne - 02-09-2015

Good for you, Berrod, because I am still trying to crack the code that is Warren and I am miserably failing at it! Frustrated

On the subject of ERP, though. I don't see why it's considered such a taboo. Provided that the build up to it is natural and it is a result of consistent interaction and relationship, communication OOC is switched on, you know the person well OOCly, and all necessary boundaries are observed, i.e, same thing, I'm not my character, etc. etc., all the things pointed out by the posters in this thread, let your characters engage in sexual activity. This stuff happens all the time in movies and books, but no one labels the actors or writers as 'wrong' or 'eww'. 

Our characters are individuals and like all individuals, they have needs. Like in real life. But sadly, unlike in real life, the character and the RPer are labeled 'eww...'. Undecided If your characters are truly as realistic and normal as possible, then they will experience feelings and interaction of sexual nature at some point in their lives. 

So, that said, no, I am not against ERP at all. Of course, provided that it is the general RP that leads to the ERP and not the other way around, i.e, ERP is the sole reason you RP, it's perfectly plausible to me. 

My two gil.

RE: The IC/OOC boundary and how to approach it the SMILE way - Berrod Armstrong - 02-09-2015

Consent, respect, differentiation, intent, control, discretion and communication; a player who recognizes and utilizes all these things is all set to roleplay WHATEVER the hell they want.