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RE: Seeking advice on dealing with conflict - LiadansWhisper - 01-31-2014
(01-31-2014, 10:13 PM)Renault Delumiere Wrote:Â This is tommy the tonberry
Tommy the tonberry stabs this thread.
This thread has 0hp
This thread has died.
Do not keep beating the dead thread.
Let the damn thread die.
And all the beautiful people lived happily ever after.
I Stoneskinned this thread. Â
Don't make me come over there with my stick.
RE: Seeking advice on dealing with conflict - Naunet - 02-01-2014
(01-31-2014, 10:13 PM)Renault Delumiere Wrote: Stuff about tonberries and beating dead ones
That's a bit unfair. So I don't get to participate in engaging conversation? >_>
RE: Seeking advice on dealing with conflict - Clover - 02-01-2014
(01-31-2014, 10:13 PM)Renault Delumiere Wrote:I'm very sorry for participating in a thread. I'll try to avoid it in the future @_@ (?)
Tommy the tonberry stabs this thread.
This thread has 0hp
This thread has died.
Do not keep beating the dead thread.
Let the damn thread die.
And all the beautiful people lived happily ever after.
RE: Seeking advice on dealing with conflict - McBeefâ„¢ - 02-01-2014
I think this thread ended up having some really good discussions, and allowed a lot of people to express their viewpoints. It was really informative to me especially. I would say feel free to continue to discuss anything that was brought up, but as I said before, it would be good to speak in generalities, rather than nitpick my rather specific situation.
RE: Seeking advice on dealing with conflict - Aldotsk - 02-01-2014
Without a doubt, this thread has been very essential and helpful for everyone to share their opinions and clarify things a bit better. In every roleplays, characters always seem to just think that everyone will exactly have the same thoughts as others, and that's the biggest problem there. Talk it out and negotiate. We are all here to have fun, and it'd be just terrible to endure such drama and break friendships with others.
Sure there are some players who don't appreciate your IC intervention, and if they don't appreciate it and they tell you to stay out of it, then it's probably best to just not be involved at all. Why create a drama about it really?Â
Also any cops style character should not just go off and make an arrest without knowing full stories. :U
C'mon. Even Natalie has a notebook she carries around to write full stories when she investigates.
(except she hasn't been doing that lately.)
RE: Seeking advice on dealing with conflict - TheLastCandle - 02-01-2014
Tommy the tonberry should put down the knife and let the mods do their job where they feel it's warranted. This has been a good, civil discussion and has been quite helpful.
RE: Seeking advice on dealing with conflict - FreelanceWizard - 02-01-2014
It's a total sidebar here, but anyone is certainly welcome to report a thread or post via PM or the little report button if they think it's out of line. That doesn't necessarily mean anything will be done, but it's certainly more likely to get results than posting in the thread asking people to stop posting.
This particular thread has been great, IMO. It's been a very civil discussion on a fairly controversial issue, and I love it when that happens. Many hugs for all.
RE: Seeking advice on dealing with conflict - Renault Delumiere - 02-01-2014
Who said the thread was derailed or needed to be removed?
I'm simply saying the issue has already been discussed and resolved, so anyone coming in and responding with points that were already made because they failed to read the thread in it's entirety is mere redundancy.
We are now "beating the dead horse."
RE: Seeking advice on dealing with conflict - synaesthetic - 02-01-2014
If I am roleplaying with someone or someones, and some random person comes up to me and interjects themselves into my roleplay without permission with the intent to change or alter the plot, they will go on my blacklist. Period.
As long as they're not godmodding and trying to fuck around with my story, they can walk up and become involved if they want. If it's something I don't want other players to become involved with directly, I will write a ficlet instead of RP in game. Public involvement is kind of the point of in-game RP.
RE: Seeking advice on dealing with conflict - Ildur - 02-01-2014
The footnote to this whole issue is that OOC communication is key. Specially when your character holds any position of civil or military authority. It might be breaking your character to ignore the thieves in the alley, but if you ask them if they are willing to be discovered (and potentially arrested) and their answer is "No, sorry", then you just have to write them off from your micro-canon temporaly. Just as some NPCs are "phased out" to certain characters and not to others, like for example the children that spawn outside the Coffer and Coffin, who are only visible to those with the quest that spawned them, you can consider those people 'phased out' of your micro-canon. They are, as far as you are concerned, not there and, since they are not there, you are not breaking character by ignoring them.
(02-01-2014, 04:33 PM)Renault Delumiere Wrote: Who said the thread was derailed or needed to be removed?
Bob the Bomb has a better question:
- Who said you were implying this thread was derailed or needed removal? Oh! And another good one, from Molly the Moogle
- Why do you care if people want to keep discussing and exploring this topic, kupo? If you consider it finished that is very fine. But expecting other people to come to the same conclusion or to not share their opinions on the matter is a bit ridicolous. Instead of grumpily declaring the 'beating of a dead horse' just point out to people that their arguments were already discussed before. No need to be a sarcastic about it or anything, or interrupt the ongoing conversation with a rude "just shut up" post. Instead, why don't you point out why they are being redundant? Then they'll answer back with something relevant, probably arguing why they aren't being redundant, and then you'll answer back and later they will...unless you are scared of getting involved in the discussion, in which case I have to wonder why you got involved anyways.
RE: Seeking advice on dealing with conflict - ArmachiA - 02-01-2014
Or, you know, stop reading the thread. Ain't no one got a gun to your head forcing you to read rehashed opinions.
RE: Seeking advice on dealing with conflict - Renault Delumiere - 02-01-2014
(02-01-2014, 05:20 PM)Ildur Wrote: The footnote to this whole issue is that OOC communication is key. Specially when your character holds any position of civil or military authority. It might be breaking your character to ignore the thieves in the alley, but if you ask them if they are willing to be discovered (and potentially arrested) and their answer is "No, sorry", then you just have to write them off from your micro-canon temporaly. Just as some NPCs are "phased out" to certain characters and not to others, like for example the children that spawn outside the Coffer and Coffin, who are only visible to those with the quest that spawned them, you can consider those people 'phased out' of your micro-canon. They are, as far as you are concerned, not there and, since they are not there, you are not breaking character by ignoring them.
(02-01-2014, 04:33 PM)Renault Delumiere Wrote: Who said the thread was derailed or needed to be removed?
Bob the Bomb has a better question:
Oh! And another good one, from Molly the Moogle
If you consider it finished that is very fine. But expecting other people to come to the same conclusion or to not share their opinions on the matter is a bit ridicolous. Instead of grumpily declaring the 'beating of a dead horse' just point out to people that their arguments were already discussed before. No need to be a sarcastic about it or anything, or interrupt the ongoing conversation with a rude "just shut up" post. Instead, why don't you point out why they are being redundant? Then they'll answer back with something relevant, probably arguing why they aren't being redundant, and then you'll answer back and later they will...unless you are scared of getting involved in the discussion, in which case I have to wonder why you got involved anyways.
You took my clever idea and butchered it, thanks.
RE: Seeking advice on dealing with conflict - Kage - 02-01-2014
To be honest I still feel a little worried because there were some posts that said that the walk up actions/decisions should be allowed/followed because the beginning interactions were allowed (ie allowing them to become a part of the RP,etc) so they essentially opened themselves to any of the actions brought up by a walk up.
What happens when you are happy with and fine with the initial interactions but half-way through the actions take a turn that does not jive well with the characters/plot? Break the pace immediately to OOC hash it out?
RE: Seeking advice on dealing with conflict - Naunet - 02-01-2014
(02-01-2014, 05:28 PM)ExKage Wrote: What happens when you are happy with and fine with the initial interactions but half-way through the actions take a turn that does not jive well with the characters/plot? Break the pace immediately to OOC hash it out?
Yes. That is what you do precisely.
RE: Seeking advice on dealing with conflict - ArmachiA - 02-01-2014
Yes. OOC communication is the most important thing and even if it breaks the flow of the scene it needs to be done. I don't know why some people are so afraid of OOC communication, it's so necessary to prevent drama.