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RE: Patch 2.41 Notes - ArmachiA - 11-21-2014
(11-21-2014, 02:13 PM)Jana Wrote: I can't commit to a given time at all and I don't like having to use voice chat things, but it's ncie of you to try putting things together.
Unfortunately for any high tier raiding you need voice chat to listen. You have to, it's just how it is. The only way to clear anything is to make sure someone is calling out the moves and you're calling out what you need to. We have a few people in our groups who refuse to TALK, but they have to go in to listen and then in order to compensate they have a ton of Macros for when they need to call something out.
I honestly don't see how anyone does Ramuh EX without voice chat, it's so chaotic in there.
RE: Patch 2.41 Notes - Kage - 11-21-2014
It's really a case of the tank(s) using a macro or just typing in chat "tank orbs" or "swap" or "party orbs" so they know who's got them. There's a bit of finesse involved if they're learning but someone else could potentially call it out in chat easily.
Typically you have a BRD to bait on the outside, way mark set on the land edge behind ramuh. Black mage or 1,2,3,4 or 5 set near the way mark around the half behind Ramuh with the higher number closer to Ramuh's front. Black mage almost always 1, usually just sits on the waymark unless they don't have the aoe and just move out or stay there for an aoe heal or so.
RE: Patch 2.41 Notes - Sounsyy - 11-21-2014
(11-21-2014, 03:41 PM)ArmachiA Wrote: I honestly don't see how anyone does Ramuh EX without voice chat, it's so chaotic in there.
Can be done, but like you said it does complicate things. I solo tank Ramuh and use a "CLEAR" macro with a few sound effects tacked on the end. While another party member will mark players 1-5 with lowest number bolting charmed players and highest number breaking chains.
Similarly, a group that is familiar with T5-T9 can complete without voice chat or calling out anything. But it requires each party member knows their role in each fight intimately. But you are most certainly correct in that Voice Chat makes XIV's endgame content worlds easier on everyone in the party, especially when there are new members or strangers present.
Talking is not necessary, but listening is most definitely helpful.
(Unless you know the content really well and people talking distracts you, which can be a thing. @_@ I can't tell you how many times in T9 I've accidentally Lunar Dynamo'd myself in that first phase just because someone started talking about something and I'm like wut? Oh frig! Souns bein' an idiot again...)
RE: Patch 2.41 Notes - Kage - 11-21-2014
I haven't cleared T9 (obviously as I bitch about it constantly) but I've never really had a problem with needing any type of voice communicated messages before Heavensfall.
... Unless someone oops'd and place a meteor too close and golems need to be adjusted.
Or... when you and the bard both have meteor streams right after Lunar Dynamo and you typically are in the same area so you dance with each other holding hands. YES YES I MOVE TOWARDS THIS WALL AND YOU GO- WAIT OK YOU'RE GOING THERE I'LL GO - OMG WE - Dead. "What happened?" "Kage and BRD were holdin' hands going on a date." "We started moving in the same direction and each time one of us switched the other switch too.." "Kage! BRD! Communicate!"
RE: Patch 2.41 Notes - ArmachiA - 11-21-2014
^
^ I have mumble killed myself a few times (Going to press my push-to-talk and... uh forgetting to move) lolol.
I set up a newish raid team for my FC and have been going in there with them when they need a sub. I keep yelling at them to communicate more, call out things. It's the main reason why they are wiping.
Anyway Kage, if you want help with that LS, I'm down. Like I said above, I'm pretty good at wrangling cats. I've found most of the time people are willing but they need some direction.
RE: Patch 2.41 Notes - Kage - 11-21-2014
I put my headphones to push to talk and so now people don't get my random fan noises or all my chatter... but it's now more of a "OH SHIT I HAVE TO SPEAK!" moment to... speak and press a button than it was before when mumble was set to voice activity ><; It's already an oh-shit-say-something moment when I get bound in T8. "1 bounded!" "Kage you do know that..." "Quiet you."
Armi, that'd be great! I'll see about making the LS started when I get off work. I just hope there's enough interest! (Psst, I have a real life cat I need to learn how to wrangle. So far all he does is lay down on my bag after placing his rope toything. Teach me these cat wrangling ways master!)
RE: Patch 2.41 Notes - Aris - 11-22-2014
(11-21-2014, 11:07 AM)Kage Wrote: ^ if you're worried about going into the world on your lonesome but wanna raid, shoot Armi a PM.I'd definitely be interested. o/
I was thinking of making a linkshell tonight when I get home from work and start putting it together before I go into T9 (again I HATE YOU NAEL. GOSH. LET ME KILL YOU ALREADY). It would be a concentration of T5, Shiva Ex, Ramuh EX (Odin after Tokyo Fanfest), and SCOB. If experienced people who wish to help learn or help get clears that'd be cool.
For serious, could probably also get you farming T6-T7, I haven't done T8 cause HEALER.ROBE.Q.Q. yet but I've heard who's on towers is not important now.
It could be called RPC Prime Corps /shot
RE: Patch 2.41 Notes - Kage - 11-22-2014
I made the LS last night, was a little tentative about sending those invites (irony) but I'll start trying to send them out.
It's named RP Prime Corps
I wanted RPC but apparently RPC is considered "banned' from use @_@
RE: Patch 2.41 Notes - FreelanceWizard - 11-22-2014
(11-22-2014, 10:04 PM)Kage Wrote: I wanted RPC but apparently RPC is considered "banned' from use @_@
Huh. That's... weird.
*subtly steps in front of the "Wanted, Public Enemy" poster*
RE: Patch 2.41 Notes - Kage - 11-22-2014
(11-22-2014, 11:07 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote:Yeah I didn't figure it out. I changed Prime to Primal. Corps to Co or Corp. Then I changed RPC to RP. Wala. @_@ Accepted.(11-22-2014, 10:04 PM)Kage Wrote: I wanted RPC but apparently RPC is considered "banned' from use @_@
Huh. That's... weird.
*subtly steps in front of the "Wanted, Public Enemy" poster*