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Famous Last Words: Character Death and You - Harmonixer - 04-09-2015
A random thought passed my mind while leveling the other day:
"I wonder how other people handle their own character deaths?"
More specifically, have you as a RPer ever considered ICly killing off one of you own characters permanently before? Done it already? What were the reasons and how much did it effect you (or others?)
I'm curious about the stories that may come of this. So please, share them!
Having recently talked to people that are very unhappy with their own characters and reconsidering their options, is death an answer for them? Or a 'simple' retconning.Fantasia has people divided if it's lore friendly or not, so some choose the darker path.
RE: Famous Last Words: Character Death and You - Magellan - 04-09-2015
In other forms of rp, I'm all for character death, even if I'm totaly happy with the character. If the story calls for it, if it seems like it'll make a strong contribution to the overall tale, then sure. In mmo, its a bit trickier, as there are countless pve hours to factor in. Do I *really* want to start from scratch again in leveling?
If I'm fantasiaing a character (I'm one of those people who think this should definitely be an ooc mechanic) I ask myself: 'would it be completely arbitrary to kill my character off to make room for this new one, or would it make more sense to simply retire them'
Then I act accordingly.
RE: Famous Last Words: Character Death and You - Parvacake - 04-09-2015
Lili is a character I've played in WoW. When she died over there there was no last words. It was in childbirth and it was a way for me to boy out of my WoW RP since it was dying for me and I wanted to jump into GW2 as fast as possible.
If it makes sense in the story or the person isn't totally GMing it then I'm cool!
RE: Famous Last Words: Character Death and You - Chris Ganale - 04-09-2015
I'm too attached to my characters to kill them off. And I cut my teeth in an RP environment where literally everyone was trying to kill everyone else, so it's burned into every fiber of my being to violently resist the deaths of my characters.
That said, I have petulantly debated sending most of them to their unceremonious doom in one of my varying stages of considering a ragequit from RP. Hasn't happened yet.
RE: Famous Last Words: Character Death and You - Maril - 04-09-2015
My alts are, in principle, kill-able. That not to invite anyone and their grandma to come try, but meant in the sense that if they end up in trouble they for sure will not escape alive, then that will be their end. The only reason why I have a no-kill reservation on Nailah is because she is my guild-leading character in a setup that relies a lot on her, and the guild would suffer and maybe even crumble if she died. But to that end, I also try vehemently to keep her out of potentially lethal danger.Â
Characters come and go. On a few occasions I have killed off a main before because there simply was nothing more for them to achieve, they felt like they'd had their run, and I'd rather end their memory on a high note than sift through months of unsatisfying stale RP. When a character dies, it frees up new time to make a new one, and whilst that is a lot of work, it might end up being an even better character as you continue to grow as a roleplayer
RE: Famous Last Words: Character Death and You - Domri Blackblade - 04-09-2015
I roleplay permadeath and there are characters who were years old that ended up being killed off because of situations I got them into. I find it keeps me honest in my RP. If a character is actually in over there head, it makes me actually have to think of how to get them out without the comfort of plot armor.
There was a character who I RPed for over five years who I had to roll permadeath for because the plot he was in just took a huge negative turn and there was no real conceivable way to get him out. I really am not a fan of people who die then decide to Lazarus Project a little bit later. I feel it cheapens death as a whole.
My only rule for myself when it comes to killing a character off is it has to be a part of a good story so they go out with an exit and not, say, choke on a piece of rice.
If someone intends to change a character or is unhappy with their current, they can kill them off if they really have no intention of going back or just put them on hiatus and off-screen busy them.
RE: Famous Last Words: Character Death and You - Kurt S. - 04-09-2015
Everyone in my roster except Nah almost died once, all due to my OOC frustration. I saw them as failed ventures and already had ideas on how to kill em off-screen.
Kurt's probably the biggest. I was absolutely discouraged with him. Here I was being 'oh hey, I wanna rp his growth from 1 to 50.' And even after he got to 50 there wasn't any marked increase in his rp opportunities. He was supposed to die in that off screen WP run, instead I pulled fantasia out of my ass and turned him into Katarina Steel, working that shit into his canon and giving birth to my altitis.
All my characters are expendable, though for Ramona's case if she dies, she just won't be IC anymore. For Kurt, I'll go ahead and turn him into a lala warrior because that's something I've wanted to try out. For Nah, I will cry a lot.
RE: Famous Last Words: Character Death and You - Aaron - 04-09-2015
I bet Aarons life on a dice roll before because Im dangerous (and stupidly confident in my luck)
Needless to say, I won.Â
Never tried it again.
RE: Famous Last Words: Character Death and You - FloriaRaine - 04-09-2015
I'm far too attached to my characters to kill them off. I don't get them involved in dangerous environments (you know, which stabby stabby, cutty cutty characters). Although this is mainly for my mains and comedic relief characters, some of my alts might be made just to throw away at a later date, perhaps for story purposes or because i'll grow bored of them and they were just a concept i wanted to try for a bit.
RE: Famous Last Words: Character Death and You - Enla - 04-09-2015
All my characters are killable, but I need a good enough reason to actually make that leap most of the time - particularly coming off of another MMO where there were a plethora of roleplayers who took great pleasure in adding your character's death as another notch in their proverbial belt. That said however, if the reason is good enough all of them can and will die without a single regret - and if they do I'll then fantasia them into something else so that I won't have to make an entirely new character either.
I'm much more lax with mutilations personally, and really don't care if people cute a character's arm off in RP so long as it doesn't come out of nowhere with the perpetrator loling off into the sunset.
RE: Famous Last Words: Character Death and You - Flashhelix - 04-09-2015
In other games, I've RPed completely mortal characters, but I think RPing a character WITHOUT plot armor tends to make me care less. I can invest more time in a character when I know there's not a chance of him getting stabbed dead in the street the next day.
RE: Famous Last Words: Character Death and You - Harmonixer - 04-09-2015
(04-09-2015, 09:05 PM)Ramuhnuh Wrote: Everyone in my roster except Nah almost died once, all due to my OOC frustration. I saw them as failed ventures and already had ideas on how to kill em off-screen.
Kurt's probably the biggest. I was absolutely discouraged with him. Here I was being 'oh hey, I wanna rp his growth from 1 to 50.' And even after he got to 50 there wasn't any marked increase in his rp opportunities. He was supposed to die in that off screen WP run, instead I pulled fantasia out of my ass and turned him into Katarina Steel, working that shit into his canon and giving birth to my altitis.
All my characters are expendable, though for Ramona's case if she dies, she just won't be IC anymore. For Kurt, I'll go ahead and turn him into a lala warrior because that's something I've wanted to try out. For Nah, I will cry a lot.
Firstly, thank for everyone for all the replies so far!
I picked this post in particular because I feel as though I've been in a similar boat. My frustration for my character became really overwhelming and I was certain the only solution was to explode him in a blaze of glory. It started well enough, I had ambition to make him really grow as I played the game (not this one) and it just repeatedly failed. I wasn't good with the concept and I couldn't get into it. I ended up bailing on the whole thing and just left him to rot, not quite embracing his death on the off chance I grew more as a person and than wanted to come back to it.
I would never consider my characters invincible. I've allowed a few deaths to happen, but they weren't ever in MMOs. I don't know if it's my unwillingness to relevel them or it's more to do with the fact that I'm attached to them. I think... I think in the right conditions it could happen. It really depends.
I admit that I'm a person that is somewhat of a perfectionist. If I feel my characters are poorly represented by myself then I will do whatever I must to make them fit. Sometimes, this can cause a minor issue with others, but a lot of it is just the old tried and true communication thing.
I wouldn't want to have a perma on this game I don't think. The conditions again, would have to be perfect.
RE: Famous Last Words: Character Death and You - Cliodhna Eoghan - 04-09-2015
(04-09-2015, 09:05 PM)Ramuhnuh Wrote: Kurt's probably the biggest. I was absolutely discouraged with him. Here I was being 'oh hey, I wanna rp his growth from 1 to 50.' And even after he got to 50 there wasn't any marked increase in his rp opportunities. He was supposed to die in that off screen WP run, instead I pulled fantasia out of my ass and turned him into Katarina Steel, working that shit into his canon and giving birth to my altitis.you know i enjoy rping with kurt quite a bit, not sure how clio would take it ic if he were to die.....i just know she's fond of him as a younger sibling almost which is still a relativity new thing for her to have long term relationships with people so if he were to die randomly, i'm sure she'd at least be a bit shaken by it.
All my characters are expendable, though for Ramona's case if she dies, she just won't be IC anymore. For Kurt, I'll go ahead and turn him into a lala warrior because that's something I've wanted to try out. For Nah, I will cry a lot.
far as myself i only killed one character. it was the younger sibling to a different form of youkio. she was....four or five when it happened, he was suppose to be babysitting her but being a ten year old boy and annoyed with having to watch her; said get outta my sight and don't get into trouble. well one of their parents didn't put the lid back correctly on a bottle of blood pressure meds and left them out by mistake and he found her lying on the bathroom floor a few hours later.
RE: Famous Last Words: Character Death and You - CrimsonMars - 04-09-2015
(04-09-2015, 08:58 PM)Chris Ganale Wrote: I'm too attached to my characters to kill them off. And I cut my teeth in an RP environment where literally everyone was trying to kill everyone else, so it's burned into every fiber of my being to violently resist the deaths of my characters.
That said, I have petulantly debated sending most of them to their unceremonious doom in one of my varying stages of considering a ragequit from RP. Hasn't happened yet.
Pretty much this. Even if I quit this game, I'll more than likely continue Chiyo's story via fan faction. My alts though, are sometimes kill-able.
RE: Famous Last Words: Character Death and You - Aaron - 04-09-2015
Almost forgot.Â
Im terrible with RP concepts and making new characters so I tend to avoid killing mine (and avoid situations where id have to ponder killing them) because
A - Nobody got time for a Fantasia or name change. That's $20 gone that coulda been a sub.
B - Nobody leveling to 2.5 content again. Â That's hell on earth.
C - Im not farming gear and unlocking stuff all over.
D - That's a lot of workÂ
E - Gotta ICly meet everyone again some way some how and all that drama
If I didn't have to basically crucify myself to get another character. id be betting their lives on dice more often. (Gotta admit I felt too relieved when I one that roll on Aarons life)
But till then? Nah.