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Plausibility of Vampire RP - ultima_weapon - 09-21-2015

alright so hear me out im a huge fan of vampires and other supernatural beings and would like to come up with ways to rp in a lore friendly way and incorporate that into my character who's a hyur so here goes 

Origin of vampirism: My idea was the first vamp(s) to have been magic users who either forced an elemental into submission or maybe it was a mutual union to protect the environment (still working this part out or could use it as a distorted legend passed down over time) and the results of said union created something beyond human but still flesh and blood

Abilities: manipulation of nature/ aether in general so jobs would include whm/blm/nin/mnk/maybe pld tho with different applications of how the magic/abilities are used. all magic comes from casters body but since they're immortal it's not life threatening.

Feeding: Must consume external aether to replenish body. This can be done Cnj style and just take from the environment or for more practical and less primal-esque destructive means and drain a person's aether through their blood, the elementals would probably prefer second method since humans suck (no pun intended)

Weaknesses: Fire would be a huge one and things like sunlight would just be superstition encouraged by vamps to deceive the public and blend in

RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Val - 09-21-2015

Vampires absolutely do not exist in XIV lore. And that's.. pretty much it. There isn't really a way around it, and making up a race specifically to RP one just won't work. You're going to meet so much opposition that it's probably going to be more of a nuisance for you than fun. If you want to RP a vampire, I'd suggest going to an actual vampire-based RP. XIV isn't the place for it.

RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Virella - 09-21-2015

Blood does seem to hold aether, seeming in the MQS you need to gather some of the beasttribes, and turn it into a potion. If I remember correctly. So I guess drinking blood might have some aether, so it could make sense? I don't know, it sounds like more of a trouble then it's actual worth.

RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Sebastian Taylor - 09-21-2015

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RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Flashhelix - 09-21-2015

There's no real lore-friendly way to RP vampires because there's no such thing as vampires in XIV.

(09-21-2015, 11:37 PM)celestial_mage Wrote: Origin of vampirism: My idea was the first vamp(s) to have been magic users who either forced an elemental into submission or maybe it was a mutual union to protect the environment (still working this part out or could use it as a distorted legend passed down over time) and the results of said union created something beyond human but still flesh and blood

I can't really see anybody forcing an elemental into submission. They're intangible, unknowable nature spirits that have complete control of the forest. How would an elemental turn somebody into a blood-sucking zombie weakened by sunlight? That doesn't really seem up their alley.

(09-21-2015, 11:37 PM)celestial_mage Wrote: Abilities: manipulation of nature/ aether in general so jobs would include whm/blm/nin/mnk/maybe pld tho with different applications of how the magic/abilities are used. all magic comes from casters body but since they're immortal it's not life threatening.

This seems almost ludicrously overpowered.

(09-21-2015, 11:37 PM)celestial_mage Wrote: Weaknesses: Fire would be a huge one and things like sunlight would just be superstition encouraged by vamps to deceive the public and blend in

So then they don't even have vampire weaknesses? And how exactly would there be a public superstition anyway if vampires don't exist in the world of FFXIV? There's no superstition because they're not there.

RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - ultima_weapon - 09-21-2015

they dont exist as far as we kno Cool until a few months ago there weren't scaly horned people with speculated demonic origin. plus its a big world out there

RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Val - 09-21-2015

(09-21-2015, 11:52 PM)celestial_mage Wrote: they dont exist as far as we kno Cool until a few months ago there weren't scaly horned people with speculated demonic origin. plus its a big world out there

In that case, I'm gonna RP a Saiyan as a monk. Can't say it doesn't exist 'cause it's a big world out there Cool

RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Oli! - 09-21-2015

(09-21-2015, 11:52 PM)celestial_mage Wrote: they dont exist as far as we kno Cool until a few months ago there weren't scaly horned people with speculated demonic origin. plus its a big world out there


The problem with this sort of argument is that it justifies everything in the setting by its very nature. I could roleplay as Superman or get a group of friends to run around as the X-Men, because the setting does not explicitly say that they exist.

By that same token, the alternate of this argument is also true if you accept the reasoning of the first. There is nothing that explicitly says that they exist, therefore they do not.

RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Flashhelix - 09-21-2015

(09-21-2015, 11:52 PM)celestial_mage Wrote: they dont exist as far as we kno Cool until a few months ago there weren't scaly horned people with speculated demonic origin. plus its a big world out there

Yeah, no.

Auri were always there, Odin's backstory alludes to their existence. Plus you could use "it's a big world out there and we don't know" to roleplay literally anything, it's not a viable justification for playing something as out of left field as vampires let alone special aether-vampires that don't have vampire weaknesses.

RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - ultima_weapon - 09-21-2015

(09-21-2015, 11:53 PM)Val Wrote:
(09-21-2015, 11:52 PM)celestial_mage Wrote: they dont exist as far as we kno Cool until a few months ago there weren't scaly horned people with speculated demonic origin. plus its a big world out there

In that case, I'm gonna RP a Saiyan as a monk. Can't say it doesn't exist 'cause it's a big world out there Cool
not really much of a stretch when there's demons and gods running around. and hey why not maybe you were sent to hydaelyn as a baby lol

RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Faye - 09-21-2015

Hi there! First off, I want to say I like vampires. I really like vampires. I usually RP one if there's any plausibility. I have no shame in admitting this. That being said, I'm not RPing one in XIV, and the reason is that it's really not plausible. So far, we've seen no vampires in game nor even any reference to them afaik. The closest you might be able to role-play is a being from/tainted by the Void that must feed on aether (not blood), though sunlight doesn't seem to bother creatures from the Void.

Though you haven't mentioned anything about drinking blood and specified that the sunlight weakness would be a myth for your "vampires," so I have to ask, why exactly call them vampires at all? What are the downsides to all the benefits this template will give them? This isn't a canon thing, it's a thing you're making up and likely no one else will play one of these "vampires," so saying they're perpetuating rumors about their "weaknesses" seems silly. Why would they not just hide their existence altogether? Vampires aren't a thing in XIV, so as long as people are abiding by the lore, you're not going to run into characters who know what your character is and what the real world mythology for vampires is.

I also want to mention: Conjurers don't take from environment, they borrow the powers of the elementals.

I'm afraid I'd have to caution against trying to role-play a conventional, blood-sucking vampire, and the alternative you've laid out also seems best left alone unless you just want to take the route of playing a standard Void creature, which will still rub some people the wrong way. But that's my two cents; you do you!

(09-21-2015, 11:56 PM)celestial_mage Wrote: not really much of a stretch when there's demons and gods running around. and hey why not maybe you were sent to hydaelyn as a baby lol

People are not role-playing their characters as demons and gods. I think that's the key point here. Heck, even in game, they are not just "running around" and the majority of the NPC's we see are fairly normal people.

RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Caspar - 09-21-2015

I mean, I suppose you could do it, if you wanted to. But there's no lore to support it, so it'd be 100% fanon. If it's fun for you, that's fine, but I wonder if you'd get enough players on board to make it really entertaining. In the past, when I played pen and paper games about vampires, the fun was mostly in their interactions with other clans of vampires. There are no vampires in FFXIV, so it'd really be a matter of getting a bunch of like-minded players to do vampire RP privately. But even so, like others have said, you might not find any because there's not much point in playing FFXIV for vampire RP when the setting doesn't support it in any way.

RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Vallerin Hortimont - 09-21-2015

(09-21-2015, 11:56 PM)celestial_mage Wrote:
(09-21-2015, 11:53 PM)Val Wrote:
(09-21-2015, 11:52 PM)celestial_mage Wrote: they dont exist as far as we kno Cool until a few months ago there weren't scaly horned people with speculated demonic origin. plus its a big world out there

In that case, I'm gonna RP a Saiyan as a monk. Can't say it doesn't exist 'cause it's a big world out there Cool
not really much of a stretch when there's demons and gods running around. and hey why not maybe you were sent to hydaelyn as a baby lol
He makes a good point Val. I think he has you beat here.

RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Val - 09-21-2015

(09-21-2015, 11:57 PM)Vallerin Hortimont Wrote:
(09-21-2015, 11:56 PM)celestial_mage Wrote:
(09-21-2015, 11:53 PM)Val Wrote:
(09-21-2015, 11:52 PM)celestial_mage Wrote: they dont exist as far as we kno Cool until a few months ago there weren't scaly horned people with speculated demonic origin. plus its a big world out there

In that case, I'm gonna RP a Saiyan as a monk. Can't say it doesn't exist 'cause it's a big world out there Cool
not really much of a stretch when there's demons and gods running around. and hey why not maybe you were sent to hydaelyn as a baby lol
He makes a good point Val. I think he has you beat here.

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RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Val - 09-21-2015

(09-21-2015, 11:56 PM)celestial_mage Wrote:
(09-21-2015, 11:53 PM)Val Wrote:
(09-21-2015, 11:52 PM)celestial_mage Wrote: they dont exist as far as we kno Cool until a few months ago there weren't scaly horned people with speculated demonic origin. plus its a big world out there

In that case, I'm gonna RP a Saiyan as a monk. Can't say it doesn't exist 'cause it's a big world out there Cool
not really much of a stretch when there's demons and gods running around. and hey why not maybe you were sent to hydaelyn as a baby lol

The problem is that these demons and "gods" are just that--special god characters. The character you RP is not considered one of them. As everyone else has already stated, your argument doesn't really hold up. You of course are welcomed to do what you want, but be forewarned that most people will likely avoid/ignore the character the moment they find out what he/she is supposed to be.