(10-02-2015, 08:37 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: Highlanders fulfill the "big person" archetype while looking "human." There's a number of Roe out there, but for the most part the traditional archetypes get fulfilled by other races: Miqo'te play the "beastial" traits up, highlanders do the Big Smash stuff, elezen play the graceful tones better...

I like Roes, and have one as an alt, but I think they're sort of redundant unless you're wanting specifically to be roegadyn. Everyone wants a snu-snu waifu but no one wants to play them.

(10-02-2015, 08:59 AM)Hammersmith Wrote: One of the problems Roe have is their "Race Backgrounds" are either "Piratical fucker" or "Literal Mountain Man"

So you come from a race of rum sodden raiders, or huge redneck ogres from the spine.

This is an oversimplification (The Hellsguard tradition of kicking kids out/sending them out into the world has HUGE opportunities, and the Seawolves OWN Limsa)

But when it comes down to it, the Roe are the least Kawaii race in the game and the game is played by a mass of formless, loathesome weeaboo.

You'll see roe, but they get shelved into the HUGE HUGE HUGE meathead area of RP accordingly by most.

Which can be fun to manipulate.

(10-02-2015, 08:59 AM)Bryn Wrote:

(10-02-2015, 08:37 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: Highlanders fulfill the "big person" archetype while looking "human." There's a number of Roe out there, but for the most part the traditional archetypes get fulfilled by other races: Miqo'te play the "beastial" traits up, highlanders do the Big Smash stuff, elezen play the graceful tones better...

I like Roes, and have one as an alt, but I think they're sort of redundant unless you're wanting specifically to be roegadyn. Everyone wants a snu-snu waifu but no one wants to play them.

See, I wouldn't agree with any of that. There's nothing 'bestial' about Miqo'te; they're small, slim humans with some cat features. After the Lalafell, they're the 'cutesy' race. Highlanders may be very built, but they're simply 'athletic' at a push; they're still within realistic human proportions, so they don't fill the 'Big Smash' type.

It all comes down to one simple factor; the cultural ideal of beauty. Roegadyns' exaggerated bodily proportions place them outside of this ideal moreso than the other races, with the exception of the Lalafell. And as we can see, Lalas are rather on the rarer side, too.

Most people want to play a character they find attractive, and role-players are no exception to this. While I personally find Roegadyn hot as all hells, I accept that their physique is a bit too 'out there' for most peoples' tastes.

(10-02-2015, 09:00 AM)Lekka Meyren Wrote:

(10-02-2015, 08:59 AM)Hammersmith Wrote: One of the problems Roe have is their "Race Backgrounds" are either "Piratical fucker" or "Literal Mountain Man"

So you come from a race of rum sodden raiders, or huge redneck ogres from the spine.

This is an oversimplification (The Hellsguard tradition of kicking kids out/sending them out into the world has HUGE opportunities, and the Seawolves OWN Limsa)

But when it comes down to it, the Roe are the least Kawaii race in the game and the game is played by a mass of formless, loathesome weeaboo.

You'll see roe, but they get shelved into the HUGE HUGE HUGE meathead area of RP accordingly by most.

Which can be fun to manipulate.

Feel like there's also a tendency for queer women to play Roe; as an aside from the "hurr durr meathead" stereotype.

So perhaps if folk see too few roe they don't know any queer ladies or ultratough guys.

(10-02-2015, 08:55 AM)Virella Douront Wrote: When it comes down to roes though, I find their lore a bit lacking. Highlanders have this amazing story you can work with, whereas I find it for roes a bit lacking. Elezen (especially Ishgardians) have an amazing story to work with as well. If only roes had a bit more to talk about but "Gah I got kicked out of my house as a Hellsguard/Yarrr pirate things as a Seawolf" I would be more inclined to roleplay them. That said I do have a lovely femroe alt who I enjoy roleplaying, but my lanky twig and drunken monk simply get the attention above her due to lore being more interesting to me personally.

(10-02-2015, 08:32 AM)Xau Wrote: I find it curious that there seem to be few Roe out there.  I've peeked at a few linkshells, and looked through some of the Companies from here's Lodestone listing and there are just not a lot out there.  I'm baffled by this and wonder why.  There even seem to be fewer female Roe I find odd, given how good most look.

I think the Roe have a nice aesthetic to them, both sexes.  And of course there is the allure of a massive character for melee types, or mages if you want to break type-casting.  I can understand RPing a giant might not appeal to some, but I would think more then there are out there.

So, I'm just trying to wrap my mind around why.  Roe can be fun to RP with.  My tiny lil miqo looks like a child to most of them which makes it amusing to play the shy little cat.  So why is it?  Why no loving for the Roe?

(10-02-2015, 09:05 AM)Bryn Wrote:

(10-02-2015, 08:55 AM)Virella Douront Wrote: When it comes down to roes though, I find their lore a bit lacking. Highlanders have this amazing story you can work with, whereas I find it for roes a bit lacking. Elezen (especially Ishgardians) have an amazing story to work with as well. If only roes had a bit more to talk about but "Gah I got kicked out of my house as a Hellsguard/Yarrr pirate things as a Seawolf" I would be more inclined to roleplay them. That said I do have a lovely femroe alt who I enjoy roleplaying, but my lanky twig and drunken monk simply get the attention above her due to lore being more interesting to me personally.

Highlanders have less lore than Roegadyn, considering that Roegadyn have their own racial language and explicitly-stated origins. We can't claim the story of Ala Mhigo as 'Highlander Lore' in the same sense, as Ala Mhigo was a nation state comprised of varying races. While it's probably(but still speculation) that AM's population was mostly Highlander, we have next to no lore on the race itself.

But if we're honest, the lore behind all of the races is very lacking, and it saddens me constantly.

(10-02-2015, 09:02 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:

(10-02-2015, 08:59 AM)Bryn Wrote:

(10-02-2015, 08:37 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: Highlanders fulfill the "big person" archetype while looking "human." There's a number of Roe out there, but for the most part the traditional archetypes get fulfilled by other races: Miqo'te play the "beastial" traits up, highlanders do the Big Smash stuff, elezen play the graceful tones better...

I like Roes, and have one as an alt, but I think they're sort of redundant unless you're wanting specifically to be roegadyn. Everyone wants a snu-snu waifu but no one wants to play them.

See, I wouldn't agree with any of that. There's nothing 'bestial' about Miqo'te; they're small, slim humans with some cat features. After the Lalafell, they're the 'cutesy' race. Highlanders may be very built, but they're simply 'athletic' at a push; they're still within realistic human proportions, so they don't fill the 'Big Smash' type.

It all comes down to one simple factor; the cultural ideal of beauty. Roegadyns' exaggerated bodily proportions place them outside of this ideal moreso than the other races, with the exception of the Lalafell. And as we can see, Lalas are rather on the rarer side, too.

Most people want to play a character they find attractive, and role-players are no exception to this. While I personally find Roegadyn hot as all hells, I accept that their physique is a bit too 'out there' for most peoples' tastes.

Got me. I was thinking more in the "these look less-human." Think the difference between an orc and a human - still manlike but also not. Roe also fall into that category, but like you said, people might not be comfortable being that different and opt for something else. When 90% of the population is lithe catboi, Highlanders fulfill "big smash" just fine. They're tiny compared to big Roe, sure, but the comparison works fine regardless.