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IC interactions with the REAL WoL? - CrimsonMars - 03-15-2016

Thoughts? Seems kind of tricky for lack of a better term concerning OOC, that's who we literally all play as throughout the game.


RE: IC interactions with the REAL WoL? - Warren Castille - 03-15-2016

A delicious can of worms.

Doing anything alongside the WoL would imply a level of approachable power to what he can do. Meeting him seems easily enough explained since he goes everywhere and is attached to every major development in the past few years, but being on his friend list is probably a bit more limited to majority of us.

My biases are well documented on this sort of thing.


RE: IC interactions with the REAL WoL? - FreelanceWizard - 03-15-2016

As a general rule, I avoid having my character interact with any canonical NPCs including The Warrior of Light, which I think is a good rule of thumb because:
  • It prevents accidental or intentional assertions of authority by proximity ("I'm the Elder Seedseer's student, so if you cross me, she'll know!")
  • It protects you again changes in lore or NPC behavior between patches (imagine if you were one of Moenbryda's friends -- and how you'd deal with people in different parts of the MSQ)
  • It doesn't potentially put your character in the middle of the MSQ events, many of which can only be done by one person or one group of people, and it's generally best not to assert such things in RP
I mean, I suppose a character could have seen the WoL at some point, or perhaps exchanged a few pleasantries, but given that the WoL is the Strong Silent Type, I don't see that as a particularly beneficial thing in RP. Participating in certain events that the WoL was part of, such as Operation Archon, the Battle of Carteneau, or the battle at the Steps of Faith is a lot more reasonable, IMO, since those involved lots of people and your character would've just been one of many involved.


RE: IC interactions with the REAL WoL? - Chris Ganale - 03-15-2016

Well, if your character had ties to any of the Grand Companies and/or Ishgard and was regarded as good enough to take on the Melee...


RE: IC interactions with the REAL WoL? - Warren Castille - 03-15-2016

(03-15-2016, 05:52 PM)Chris Ganale Wrote: Well, if your character had ties to any of the Grand Companies and/or Ishgard and was regarded as good enough to take on the Melee...

...then you are on the level of Raubahn, his son, or the other elite-looking captains in the GC Elite gear. Quite the claim.

/not that it's not okay or anything, it's just a bold claim


RE: IC interactions with the REAL WoL? - Teadrinker - 03-15-2016

Seems hamfisted. What does this add to your narrative? Why do you need this etc.


RE: IC interactions with the REAL WoL? - McBeefâ„¢ - 03-15-2016

(03-15-2016, 05:55 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(03-15-2016, 05:52 PM)Chris Ganale Wrote: Well, if your character had ties to any of the Grand Companies and/or Ishgard and was regarded as good enough to take on the Melee...

...then you are on the level of Raubahn, his son, or the other elite-looking captains in the GC Elite gear. Quite the claim.

/not that it's not okay or anything, it's just a bold claim
I get the impression that the fight was actually a little bigger than represented. 

Either way, It's ok to be cool! I don't think it's a problem if a character has done cool stuff, or been around cool people. It's just if they claim to have /influenced/ them.


RE: IC interactions with the REAL WoL? - FreelanceWizard - 03-15-2016

(03-15-2016, 05:55 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(03-15-2016, 05:52 PM)Chris Ganale Wrote: Well, if your character had ties to any of the Grand Companies and/or Ishgard and was regarded as good enough to take on the Melee...

...then you are on the level of Raubahn, his son, or the other elite-looking captains in the GC Elite gear. Quite the claim.

/not that it's not okay or anything, it's just a bold claim

The game's limited in the number of people it can represent. Smile The impression I got was that it was a pretty large military exercise, not a small skirmish. Personally, I wouldn't have any problem with someone saying they were involved in the Grand Melee.


RE: IC interactions with the REAL WoL? - Flynn Rosenberg - 03-15-2016

Wouldn't get involved, though it would be impossible to have avoided him/her this whole time. Since we don't know canonly what the WoL looks like, they could be anyone our characters have passed by by now.

As for interacting with them, my character has not. In the event that he has, he would be extremely vague about the identity to avoid the whole "I've met the WoL and know what they look like!" attention.


RE: IC interactions with the REAL WoL? - Aaron - 03-15-2016

Can't you just like say I saw the guy randomly somewhere and did nothing more but say Hey and go on with my business?

I'd think it's like meeting a celebrity or something.


RE: IC interactions with the REAL WoL? - Chris Ganale - 03-15-2016

Just an example. -Shrug- None of my characters would've rated an invitation to the melee anyway.


RE: IC interactions with the REAL WoL? - Cato - 03-15-2016

Personally I've always found this sort of thing to be one of the most selfish things any role-player can do with their character. Granted, there's nothing stopping anybody from doing it but many role-players will no doubt react poorly to it and seek to distance themselves from whoever embraces such a plot point.

Touching upon any major NPC outside of fan-fiction is dodgy because it essentially places one's character on a pretty lofty pedestal far above many others. Even if one strives to play their character as influential and well connected...that can easily be achieved without claiming to have brushed shoulders with major lore figures.

In my experience it's the sort of thing that just encourages a rather dubious arms race or for a character to be given an unwarranted amount of IC and OOC attention. Again, though, ultimately people can do what they want - they just need to accept that if they take liberties then they'll be called out on those liberties if they're too bold.


RE: IC interactions with the REAL WoL? - Val - 03-15-2016

(03-15-2016, 06:38 PM)Graeham Wrote: Personally I've always found this sort of thing to be one of the most selfish things any role-player can do with their character.

Kind of in the same boat here, really. It's generally rule of thumb to not be involved with any major NPCs even remotely. You can do it, but most people probably wouldn't really care to acknowledge it or get involved. As Warren said earlier, it would imply your character has some sort of special power/ability/is strong/special enough to be recognized by them rather than just being a citizen of the world. It goes along with fighting primals (although in XIV that's actually a thing), claiming to have killed the Garlean leader, being important enough for the Garlean leader to order your capture, owning Frostmourne, being Sylvanas' long-lost sister/best friend, or hanging out with Kirito.

Yeah, I've seen all of these.


RE: IC interactions with the REAL WoL? - Aaron - 03-15-2016

Is that Kirito, Kirito Uchiha?

:o


RE: IC interactions with the REAL WoL? - Val - 03-15-2016

(03-15-2016, 06:44 PM)Aaron Wrote: Is that Kirito, Kirito Uchiha?

:o

Cactuar