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Calming the Inner Beast- 2.1 patch warrior buffs - Zac Evans - 11-20-2013
I'm not entirely sure that this goes here, and I'll most likely delete it if it doesn't, but how do all of my fellow Warriors out there plan to adjust their roleplaying style to accommodate the new changes? I look forward to many of them, but a couple of them slightly confuse me. Please excuse any spelling errors, as my phone is dumber than a stump.
Take Holmgang for example. I always though of it more of a call out to one-on-one battle. A kind of 'Stand and FIGHT!!!' warcry than a whole 'produce a chain out of nowhere and begin savagely beating the bound foeman' gambit. One of the few ways I think of using this 'chain-ge'(I know, puny, kill me later) Is to whip off that chain belt I've been wearing to keep my britches up and lasso a monster with it. Another way is to use that chain I've been using to keep my axe on my back when not in use and go all Belmont on the poor sap. Thechoice is yous, but I'm not so sure on how to pull it off.
Another is Defiance. I loved this skill, always imagining activating as just that-and act of defiance. Spitting in Bahamuts eye as he charges Mega Flare, showing you're not afraid to die and take him with you!!! I enjoy we get healed for more just by using it, but leads me to my greatest woe which the thread is named for.
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Inner Beast-this was an INSANE ability and king of the self-heals. what with the self heal being taken down from 300% to 100%, it doesn't seem as fearsome, even if you claim to have glowy red demon eyes Like Curious Gorge and Fell Demon. An understandable nerf, but how can we Warriors mock Paladins for needing to rely on bookworms (you know it's true Scolars)
RE: Calming the Inner Beast- 2.1 patch warrior buffs - Jomoru - 11-20-2013
As a scholar I spam alot more heals on warriors than Paladins!
RE: Calming the Inner Beast- 2.1 patch warrior buffs - LiadansWhisper - 11-20-2013
I personally find it hilarious how butthurt the paladin posters are on the official forums. Â >.>
(This probably belongs in FFXIV Discussion)
RE: Calming the Inner Beast- 2.1 patch warrior buffs - LeCard - 11-20-2013
(11-20-2013, 11:09 PM)Jomoru Wrote: As a scholar I spam alot more heals on warriors than Paladins!
This. Also, Pallys can use CNJ skills to heal themselves AND use stoneskin. Unless I am remembering WAR wrong, no healing magics for you. Just whatever skills you get for self heals. Also, pallys get to BLOCK alot of dmg that warriors take square on the chin, and while yes that is a more "come at be bro" style of fighting it makes for alot more healer work to even out the dmg spikes of a WAR. (also of note, SCH storyline pretty much says explicitly SCH you where MADE to heal WAR go forth and play your role.)
RE: Calming the Inner Beast- 2.1 patch warrior buffs - Ildur - 11-21-2013
I wouldn't give Cure and Stoneskin so much credit as skills on paladins. On a dungeon enviorement they are meaningless. The heal is not significant enough to make a difference unless you are fighting exactly one trash mob (and if you are, your healer should have your back anyway), it eats a lot of MP which is better used for Flash, and while you can recover MP by using that one combo move, your skills are better used on enmity generation. I haven't leveled White Mage on my Paladin enough to get Stoneskin, but really, paladins don't need it. In fact, I'll go ahead and say that the only reason a paladin would get conjurer up to 15 is because is is a Job requeriment.
Sure, Cure and Protect are nice for soloing or overworld questing/FATE parties, but they get absolutely nothing useful from conjurers as far as tanking goes.
With that said, I do like Warrior's changes. I should probably level mine up so I can pretend to know what people are talking about when discussing this changes!
RE: Calming the Inner Beast- 2.1 patch warrior buffs - Zyrusticae - 11-21-2013
Looking good.
But it better be damn good as it completely demoralized me when I realized how horribly behind Warrior is next to Paladin atm, to the point where I just lost interest in moving towards endgame.
Maybe this will help me get my motivation back...
RE: Calming the Inner Beast- 2.1 patch warrior buffs - Aleister - 11-21-2013
(11-21-2013, 05:29 PM)Zyrusticae Wrote: Looking good.That's silly. This current problem with War/Pld encouraged me as a warrior to get better to were I'm almost done with Coil.. Not trying to brag just saying that if you try you can for sure see content even if the class is gimped for whatever reason. Shouldn't let the mass hate by the gaming community discourage you from playing something you thought was/is fun.
But it better be damn good as it completely demoralized me when I realized how horribly behind Warrior is next to Paladin atm, to the point where I just lost interest in moving towards endgame.
Maybe this will help me get my motivation back...
Roleplaying wise I won't be changing anything about my character with the new changes in 2.1, not a fan of throwing game skills into my RP character that seems odd.. Ex: Defiance, foresight, vengence(Maybe.. This is FF after all and something like vengence could be pulled off.)
PvE wise.. loving all these buffs that me and my fellow seasoned and future Warriors will be getting, difficulty with the gameplay of the class will be interesting especially with Holmgang and how it should be executed since its a gimped hallowed ground.. And with all the damage reduction added to our skills for ourselves and enemies.. healers won't be complaining anymore. 8D
RE: Calming the Inner Beast- 2.1 patch warrior buffs - Aleister - 11-21-2013
(11-20-2013, 11:05 PM)Zac Evans Wrote: Inner Beast-this was an INSANE ability and king of the self-heals. what with the self heal being taken down from 300% to 100%, it doesn't seem as fearsome, even if you claim to have glowy red demon eyes Like Curious Gorge and Fell Demon. An understandable nerf, but how can we Warriors mock Paladins for needing to rely on bookworms (you know it's true Scolars)We'll see how much we can heal with 100% from Inner Beast but I don't see how this reduces the fearsomeness of this skill? The fact that we get a 20% damage reduction buff for 6 seconds is crazy! In my eyes its like.. The Warrior smacks the boss with Inner Beast, after words he lets forth a  powerful warcry which heals him (by 100%) and then all of a sudden.. his body hardens/stiffens or the wrath which he just blow on Inner beast coats itself on the warrior's armor/skin for the damage reduction.
I dunno, something random I just came up with right now.. It seems pretty badass how I'm picturing it in my head. -shrug-
RE: Calming the Inner Beast- 2.1 patch warrior buffs - J'ruzho - 11-21-2013
(11-21-2013, 09:23 PM)Aleister Wrote:(11-20-2013, 11:05 PM)Zac Evans Wrote: Inner Beast-this was an INSANE ability and king of the self-heals. what with the self heal being taken down from 300% to 100%, it doesn't seem as fearsome, even if you claim to have glowy red demon eyes Like Curious Gorge and Fell Demon. An understandable nerf, but how can we Warriors mock Paladins for needing to rely on bookworms (you know it's true Scolars)We'll see how much we can heal with 100% from Inner Beast but I don't see how this reduces the fearsomeness of this skill? The fact that we get a 20% damage reduction buff for 6 seconds is crazy! In my eyes its like.. The Warrior smacks the boss with Inner Beast, after words he lets forth a  powerful warcry which heals him (by 100%) and then all of a sudden.. his body hardens/stiffens or the wrath which he just blow on Inner beast coats itself on the warrior's armor/skin for the damage reduction.
I dunno, something random I just came up with right now.. It seems pretty badass how I'm picturing it in my head. -shrug-
Hmm, I think it's more like a barbarian's rage. He becomes so filled with resolve, anger, and inner strength that not only does he shrug off his existing wounds, but new ones are nothing to him. Pain is in ones mind, and they have the strength to ignore it.
RE: Calming the Inner Beast- 2.1 patch warrior buffs - Aleister - 11-21-2013
(11-21-2013, 09:57 PM)J Wrote:what I came up with was just something off the top of my head but that is a much cooler way of showing how Inner Beast would work.(11-21-2013, 09:23 PM)Aleister Wrote:(11-20-2013, 11:05 PM)Zac Evans Wrote: Inner Beast-this was an INSANE ability and king of the self-heals. what with the self heal being taken down from 300% to 100%, it doesn't seem as fearsome, even if you claim to have glowy red demon eyes Like Curious Gorge and Fell Demon. An understandable nerf, but how can we Warriors mock Paladins for needing to rely on bookworms (you know it's true Scolars)We'll see how much we can heal with 100% from Inner Beast but I don't see how this reduces the fearsomeness of this skill? The fact that we get a 20% damage reduction buff for 6 seconds is crazy! In my eyes its like.. The Warrior smacks the boss with Inner Beast, after words he lets forth a  powerful warcry which heals him (by 100%) and then all of a sudden.. his body hardens/stiffens or the wrath which he just blow on Inner beast coats itself on the warrior's armor/skin for the damage reduction.
I dunno, something random I just came up with right now.. It seems pretty badass how I'm picturing it in my head. -shrug-
Hmm, I think it's more like a barbarian's rage. He becomes so filled with resolve, anger, and inner strength that not only does he shrug off his existing wounds, but new ones are nothing to him. Pain is in ones mind, and they have the strength to ignore it.
RE: Calming the Inner Beast- 2.1 patch warrior buffs - Zac Evans - 11-22-2013
You guys just blew my fricken' min
RE: Calming the Inner Beast- 2.1 patch warrior buffs - LiadansWhisper - 11-22-2013
I felt the need to contribute, so I'm reposting this. Note: This is NOT my work! :-P
Oh. My. Gosh.
You guys.
Look at that WAR.Â
He's like, so, OP.
He looks like, one of those Coil MTs. pshh
They only want him in their group, because, he just got a total BUFF, 'kay?
I can't believe he's just so good, it's like, so unfair to PLDs, I mean - come on!
Look! He's just so...BUFFED!
I LIKE - BIG - BUFFS and I cannot lie,
You other tanks can't deny
That when a tank walks in with tons of HP
and mitigation from IB you get -Â
FUN, wanna WAR in your party
because you notice he's hearty
Deep in coil he's tankin'
Caduceus won't be spankin'
Ohh WAR-guy, I wanna group with you,
WAR in coil no longer taboo.
My PLD friends tried to warn me,
but that HP you got makes me-me-me say YATZEE!
Ooh, Thrill of Battle,
Those jelly PLDs will prattle
Well, friend me, friend me,
You got crazy enmity
I see PLDs slashin'
tell hell with shield bashin'!
Your tough, buff,
PLD are gonna get snuffed!
I'm tired of swords and shields,
seeing boring blocks and low heals!
Ask the average healer, "Which tank's got the floor?" -
"They gotta be a WAR"
I LIKE BIG BUFFS
Original: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/121106-Oh.-My.-Gosh.
RE: Calming the Inner Beast- 2.1 patch warrior buffs - Gharen - 11-22-2013
(11-22-2013, 12:52 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: I felt the need to contribute, so I'm reposting this. Â Note: This is NOT my work! :-P
Oh. My. Gosh.
You guys.
Look at that WAR.Â
He's like, so, OP.
He looks like, one of those Coil MTs. pshh
They only want him in their group, because, he just got a total BUFF, 'kay?
I can't believe he's just so good, it's like, so unfair to PLDs, I mean - come on!
Look! He's just so...BUFFED!
I LIKE - BIG - BUFFS and I cannot lie,
You other tanks can't deny
That when a tank walks in with tons of HP
and mitigation from IB you get -Â
FUN, wanna WAR in your party
because you notice he's hearty
Deep in coil he's tankin'
Caduceus won't be spankin'
Ohh WAR-guy, I wanna group with you,
WAR in coil no longer taboo.
My PLD friends tried to warn me,
but that HP you got makes me-me-me say YATZEE!
Ooh, Thrill of Battle,
Those jelly PLDs will prattle
Well, friend me, friend me,
You got crazy enmity
I see PLDs slashin'
tell hell with shield bashin'!
Your tough, buff,
PLD are gonna get snuffed!
I'm tired of swords and shields,
seeing boring blocks and low heals!
Ask the average healer, "Which tank's got the floor?" -
"They gotta be a WAR"
I LIKE BIG BUFFS
Original: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/121106-Oh.-My.-Gosh.
^_^ lmao too funny.
RE: Calming the Inner Beast- 2.1 patch warrior buffs - Brave - 11-22-2013
(11-22-2013, 12:52 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: I felt the need to contribute, so I'm reposting this. Â Note: This is NOT my work! :-P
Oh. My. Gosh.
You guys.
Look at that WAR.Â
He's like, so, OP.
He looks like, one of those Coil MTs. pshh
They only want him in their group, because, he just got a total BUFF, 'kay?
I can't believe he's just so good, it's like, so unfair to PLDs, I mean - come on!
Look! He's just so...BUFFED!
I LIKE - BIG - BUFFS and I cannot lie,
You other tanks can't deny
That when a tank walks in with tons of HP
and mitigation from IB you get -Â
FUN, wanna WAR in your party
because you notice he's hearty
Deep in coil he's tankin'
Caduceus won't be spankin'
Ohh WAR-guy, I wanna group with you,
WAR in coil no longer taboo.
My PLD friends tried to warn me,
but that HP you got makes me-me-me say YATZEE!
Ooh, Thrill of Battle,
Those jelly PLDs will prattle
Well, friend me, friend me,
You got crazy enmity
I see PLDs slashin'
tell hell with shield bashin'!
Your tough, buff,
PLD are gonna get snuffed!
I'm tired of swords and shields,
seeing boring blocks and low heals!
Ask the average healer, "Which tank's got the floor?" -
"They gotta be a WAR"
I LIKE BIG BUFFS
Original: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/121106-Oh.-My.-Gosh.
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RE: Calming the Inner Beast- 2.1 patch warrior buffs - Cato - 11-22-2013
(11-20-2013, 11:34 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: I personally find it hilarious how butthurt the paladin posters are on the official forums. Â >.>
(This probably belongs in FFXIV Discussion)
'Nerf <insert every class that I don't play here> and buff <insert my primary class here>!