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Garlean Primer of some kind? - OttoVann - 09-15-2014

I need one because reasons.

Like is there a thread I just can't successfully search for or a website dedicated to the 'bad guys'?

Hoping to read more. Thanks for any help.

RE: Garlean Primer of some kind? - Warren Castille - 09-15-2014

I can't help you, since I'm ostensibly one of the good guys, but what are you looking for, specifically? A history of the empire, a how-to guide to etiquette, just looking for contacts or something?

RE: Garlean Primer of some kind? - Unnamed Mercenary - 09-15-2014

What're you trying to find? 

I can look through some resources. 

There's a lot to sift through on the lore board on the SE forums too. Sometimes there's good stuff there.

RE: Garlean Primer of some kind? - Oscare - 09-15-2014

The Lore Train is a pretty awesome source of all things lore. I highly reccomend it for ANY lore questions.

RE: Garlean Primer of some kind? - Berrod Armstrong - 09-15-2014

http://gamerescape.com/2013/08/21/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-white-raven/ is an excellent summary article of Nael Van Darnus that has interesting tidbits on the Garlean Empire.

There's also this

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/112275-Garlean-Naming-Conventions?highlight=naming+conventions

and this

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/User:Anwyll/Garlean_Military

if you need stuff for names and ranks. I have more somewhere, but I can't dig it all up at work.

RE: Garlean Primer of some kind? - OttoVann - 09-15-2014

I'm terrible at this sorry. Im looking for customs, behaviors, things like that. Also knowledge of their workings I guess. All I know is Garleans come from Garlea right now

RE: Garlean Primer of some kind? - Berrod Armstrong - 09-15-2014

Ohh -- in that case, it's a bit uncertain. I tend to pluck things out from what I see in the cutscenes and what I've read of their history. There's no solid guide to the behavior and mannerisms of those from Garlemald. That's where your imagination bone has to kick in!

RE: Garlean Primer of some kind? - Unnamed Mercenary - 09-15-2014

(09-15-2014, 12:26 PM)OttoVann Wrote: I'm terrible at this sorry.  Im looking for customs, behaviors, things like that.  Also knowledge of their workings I guess.  All I know is Garleans come from Garlea right now

Hrmm..

Is it a Garlean directly from Garlemald born and raised, or from one of the many countries that has now become part of the Garlean Empire? (Like, Ala Mhigo is under Garlean control, so "Garleans" could be born there. To make a silyl reference, think of Avatar the Last Air Bender, with the Fire Nation colonies inside the Earth Kingdom)

I see the Garleans as pretty strict, very military-focussed, and duty-bound, but that isn't to say they all are. SE hasn't really given us any insight on their customs, but if we judge with the military and Cid, they do seem to receive a formal education.

I tend to play Franz as pretty nationalistic, but naturally, he can't go around preaching that anymore. More recently, he's been leaning more towards trying to convince people not all Garleans are bad and want to destroy the world. (Because they don't! They just want to "save" it and have join the big, happy, Garlean family.)

RE: Garlean Primer of some kind? - OttoVann - 09-15-2014

So if I have Garlean spies coming to my bed for...whatever it is they want other than because they we're obviously seduced...I should let sleeping dogs lie maybe. Whats the worst that can happen from them getting intel from me anyways.

Would that make Otto evil-aligned or something if I let them come back for repeat 'missions'.

Am I already ded?

RE: Garlean Primer of some kind? - Unnamed Mercenary - 09-15-2014

(09-15-2014, 02:06 PM)OttoVann Wrote: So if I have Garlean spies coming to my bed for...whatever it is they want other than because they we're obviously seduced...I should let sleeping dogs lie maybe.  Whats the worst that can happen from them getting intel from me anyways.

Would that make Otto evil-aligned or something if I let them come back for repeat 'missions'.

Am I already ded?

Well, if it's known you're in contact with Garlean spies, Otto could be gaoled by whatever local authority. (Which in Ul'dah probably means nothing, because he could pay them off).


I would keep alignment out of this game though, since really, it isn't needed. People do good and bad things, and to others, those particular actions may be deemed good or bad. If the spies seem to enjoy their time....up to you? How comfortable is Otto with known spies? What kind of information could he leak, or what would they be trying to get? I suppose he could be found guilty by association, but that's up to you and how you want to play it out.

I'm also sure if they wanted to kill Otto, they'd have tried. There are plenty of Garleans walking about, if you know where to look. *shifty eyes*

RE: Garlean Primer of some kind? - Berrod Armstrong - 09-15-2014

I always had the notion in my mind that Garlean operatives would be much more...disciplined than that. 

I'd also think that Frumentarium has much less...organic means of gathering intelligence!

A defector, however...hmm. I suppose the question becomes: What exactly do you intend to do with said Garlean?

RE: Garlean Primer of some kind? - OttoVann - 09-15-2014

(09-15-2014, 02:17 PM)Berrod Armstrong Wrote: I always had the notion in my mind that Garlean operatives would be much more...disciplined than that. 

I'd also think that Frumentarium has much less...organic means of gathering intelligence!

A defector, however...hmm. I suppose the question becomes: What exactly do you intend to do with said Garlean?

To the bold : Come on now. I'm Otto Vann, it's what I do. I put on my A-Game tryhard pants with this one and didn't hold the punches so to say. No training can resist that.

I don't think she's a defector, either. As far as what I plan to do with them? Well...my bedroom door is always open to them. They can come and go as they please.

All of this Garlean business was made aware to me and revealed after we left the bar and we're in the afterglow of doing the deed. I actually...didn't know what Garleans we're until I asked them in an OOC /tell I felt kind of bad being so terrible at RP that doesn't involve womanizing. Yes I did skip cutscenes like a shitter at launch so I could hurry through story and get back to my crafting way back when, I'm sorry.

But I do have implicit knowledge of a Garlean in my midsts. I wonder what all I should do. Guess I can wing it and have fun I hope. Its not like anyone can seriously arrest or threaten me with state-sanctioned authority.

RE: Garlean Primer of some kind? - Berrod Armstrong - 09-15-2014

This, this, a thousand times this. Have FUN! That's what it's all about. Don't worry too much. If there's any pertinent information regarding the character's nationality/alignment/loyalties; ask the player to inform you so that you don't get caught with your pants down.

...again.

RE: Garlean Primer of some kind? - Warren Castille - 09-15-2014

This sounds like a doujin waiting to be drawn.

Redeem her, Otto. Strike boldly, deep inside of her, and cover her with malice with the sticky justice of freedom.

For your country, man.

RE: Garlean Primer of some kind? - OttoVann - 09-15-2014

(09-15-2014, 02:48 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: This sounds like a doujin waiting to be drawn.

Redeem her, Otto. Strike boldly, deep inside of her, and cover her with malice with the sticky justice of freedom.

For your country, man.

This sounds lewd. L E W D.