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Firearms and Eorzea - OttoVann - 10-14-2014
So guns exist I am pretty sure. But are they all rifles of some sort? Are there handguns? Little muskets/pistols?
Are they black powder powered archaic weapons or more like modern firearms?
Revolvers or single shot pistols or semi-autos....I just dont know.
Im looking to incorporate Otto perhaps carrying a sidearm but I just need to know more before I decide on it.
Sounsyy pls
RE: Firearms and Eorzea - Warren Castille - 10-14-2014
Merlwyb's got flintlock (I think?) pistols.
Under FC crests, in with the rest of the class icons, there's a pair of crossed pistols.
Same logo appears in the MRD guild in Limsa on a sign board.
Gunblades exist but seem to be Garlemald tech.
Not sure why I keep page breaking every line.
oh god can't stop help
RE: Firearms and Eorzea - OttoVann - 10-14-2014
(10-14-2014, 03:06 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Merlwyb's got flintlock (I think?) pistols.
Under FC crests, in with the rest of the class icons, there's a pair of crossed pistols.
Same logo appears in the MRD guild in Limsa on a sign board.
Gunblades exist but seem to be Garlemald tech.
Not sure why I keep page breaking every line.
oh god can't stop help
pls
no
bully
RE: Firearms and Eorzea - Telluride - 10-14-2014
Take a run to the Marauder's guild - you'll see three ladies practicing with pistols, and a Roegadyn instructing them. The weapons look rather exactly like the sort of flintlocks that one would expect from a Pirate-based culture.
Supposedly, this little inclusion suggests that a pistol- or firearm- based class might make its way to Limsa someday.
Garlean technology is apparently a hodgepodge of historical eras, but their cannons, to me, bear a Napoleonic flair. The Mark XLIII uses shells that, if I remember, resemble enlarged bullets, as seen in the fight against Livia.
Also, you'll see some rather large and prominent cannons in Stone Vigil.
RE: Firearms and Eorzea - OttoVann - 10-14-2014
(10-14-2014, 03:08 PM)Telluride Wrote: Take a run to the Marauder's guild - you'll see three ladies practicing with pistols, and a Roegadyn instructing them. The weapons look rather exactly like the sort of flintlocks that one would expect from a Pirate-based culture.
Supposedly, this little inclusion suggests that a pistol- or firearm- based class might make its way to Limsa someday.
Garlean technology is apparently a hodgepodge of historical eras, but their cannons, to me, bear a Napoleonic flair. The Mark XLIII uses shells that, if I remember, resemble enlarged bullets, as seen in the fight against Livia.
So Otto wont be carrying a small little gun on an inner pocket then perhaps. Garleans have automatics but non-garleans carry powder based flintlock guns. cant really conceal carry flintlocks
Lame.
RE: Firearms and Eorzea - Hiro - 10-14-2014
Firearms definitely exist. Their true state is up in the air, but from what I've seen:
Garleans follow the fantasy basis of Magitek, mechanics with fudged workings that are McGuffined simply by saying: Magic does it. It makes it difficult to gauge however I'd place them at: Late Percussion Cap styled weaponry.
Personally picturing their weaponry with mechanisms similar to a late era revolver: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Army_Model_1860
With the same type of ammunition utilizing some form of advanced paper cartridge (alchemical magitek thing) or an early form of metallic cartridge.
For the rest of the world, I think we're Likely utilizing either black powder (the logical choice) or, with alchemical and magical advancements as well as chances to look at discarded Garlean technology over the years I wouldn't be surprised if Eorzea has picked up paper cartidges and flintlock/percussion cap as their mainstay.
I'm personallyof the opion that, like most gaps within firearm technology, those with money can acquire limited supplies of higher grade technology. Someone taking apart a gunblade from Garlean infantry (had to be plenty scattered after the fall) and simply reverse engineering it to a thrown back state is very feasible. I could see Otto having enough resources and IC reasoning to be able to acquire a derringer-type side arm, small and admittedly clumsy but it's a place to start.
RE: Firearms and Eorzea - Warren Castille - 10-14-2014
Remember Copperbell story mode. We are literally collecting black powder to blow open rocks. If Eorzea's going to have firearms, that's how we're going to do it.
They exist, Otto, but they're likely in such controlled and limited supply it would be a bit off for it to be something you'd be able to just stroll around with. That said, Otto is fairly wealthy and well-connected. It wouldn't be TOO unheard of for him to be able to procure one, but don't expect any sort of authority to be keen on it.
Actually, this gives me an idea.
RE: Firearms and Eorzea - Hiro - 10-14-2014
Here Otto:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Booth_deringer.jpg
The gun that killed Abraham Lincoln.
RE: Firearms and Eorzea - OttoVann - 10-14-2014
(10-14-2014, 03:15 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Remember Copperbell story mode. We are literally collecting black powder to blow open rocks. If Eorzea's going to have firearms, that's how we're going to do it.
They exist, Otto, but they're likely in such controlled and limited supply it would be a bit off for it to be something you'd be able to just stroll around with. That said, Otto is fairly wealthy and well-connected. It wouldn't be TOO unheard of for him to be able to procure one, but don't expect any sort of authority to be keen on it.
Actually, this gives me an idea.
I was envisioning carrying a small handgun, maybe it shoots something akin to .22 shorts or another small cartridge like .25 perhaps. Just something small kept inside a shoulder holster under his suit-jackets. Not something he would ever wave around or anything or flash or show off, just a gun though.
I think I will have Ridley simply carry a flintlock pistol for me though, maybe not always depending on the business.
RE: Firearms and Eorzea - McBeefâ„¢ - 10-14-2014
(10-14-2014, 03:11 PM)OttoVann Wrote:(10-14-2014, 03:08 PM)Telluride Wrote: Take a run to the Marauder's guild - you'll see three ladies practicing with pistols, and a Roegadyn instructing them. The weapons look rather exactly like the sort of flintlocks that one would expect from a Pirate-based culture.
Supposedly, this little inclusion suggests that a pistol- or firearm- based class might make its way to Limsa someday.
Garlean technology is apparently a hodgepodge of historical eras, but their cannons, to me, bear a Napoleonic flair. The Mark XLIII uses shells that, if I remember, resemble enlarged bullets, as seen in the fight against Livia.
So Otto wont be carrying a small little gun on an inner pocket then perhaps. Garleans have automatics but non-garleans carry powder based flintlock guns. cant really conceal carry flintlocks
Lame.
Flintlocks are for poors. Let me introduce to you my friend, the wheel lock.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheellock
RE: Firearms and Eorzea - Warren Castille - 10-14-2014
(10-14-2014, 03:19 PM)OttoVann Wrote:(10-14-2014, 03:15 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Remember Copperbell story mode. We are literally collecting black powder to blow open rocks. If Eorzea's going to have firearms, that's how we're going to do it.
They exist, Otto, but they're likely in such controlled and limited supply it would be a bit off for it to be something you'd be able to just stroll around with. That said, Otto is fairly wealthy and well-connected. It wouldn't be TOO unheard of for him to be able to procure one, but don't expect any sort of authority to be keen on it.
Actually, this gives me an idea.
I was envisioning carrying a small handgun, maybe it shoots something akin to .22 shorts or another small cartridge like .25 perhaps. Just something small kept inside a shoulder holster under his suit-jackets. Not something he would ever wave around or anything or flash or show off, just a gun though.
I think I will have Ridley simply carry a flintlock pistol for me though, maybe not always depending on the business.
You're killing my suspense, Otto.
RE: Firearms and Eorzea - Tiergan - 10-14-2014
I remember there actually being a quest in 1.0 where you got see your character take a pistol and shoot at a practice target. Wasn't there a musketeer guild back then too? The Knights of the Barracuda? My memories are super fuzzy about it.
RE: Firearms and Eorzea - OttoVann - 10-14-2014
(10-14-2014, 03:20 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:(10-14-2014, 03:19 PM)OttoVann Wrote:(10-14-2014, 03:15 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Remember Copperbell story mode. We are literally collecting black powder to blow open rocks. If Eorzea's going to have firearms, that's how we're going to do it.
They exist, Otto, but they're likely in such controlled and limited supply it would be a bit off for it to be something you'd be able to just stroll around with. That said, Otto is fairly wealthy and well-connected. It wouldn't be TOO unheard of for him to be able to procure one, but don't expect any sort of authority to be keen on it.
Actually, this gives me an idea.
I was envisioning carrying a small handgun, maybe it shoots something akin to .22 shorts or another small cartridge like .25 perhaps. Just something small kept inside a shoulder holster under his suit-jackets. Not something he would ever wave around or anything or flash or show off, just a gun though.
I think I will have Ridley simply carry a flintlock pistol for me though, maybe not always depending on the business.
You're killing my suspense, Otto.
Assume what you want about me ic m8, its all the better
RE: Firearms and Eorzea - Coatleque - 10-14-2014
Also, keep in mind the Garlean's use gun-blades. Emphasis on blades. Even if it is a more advanced gun at the hilt, it probably has 1-6 shots max, is not easy to reload on the fly, and infers that the main method of fighting is still hand-to-hand.
At the battle of Carteneau in the End of an Era video, you see the majority of the Garlean forces charging in with a mixture of sword and shield, axe, and spear. At the 1:58 mark, you see a few of them firing the gun-blade one shot at a time, three rounds before the video cuts away. This is where I get my 1-6 shot number from.
RE: Firearms and Eorzea - OttoVann - 10-14-2014
Ill need to gather some capable IC alchemists and Blacksmiths to perhaps work out a custom design. A lot of rich peoples guns back in the day we're all custom made (much like today where rich fucks can get $15000 guns personally madefor them with exact custom specifications).
Maybe I could commission a deringer sized flintlock weapon of sorts by having the right people put it together for me.