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The New Classes - E'irawen - 12-20-2014
So I was slowly edging myself back into the game and community now that my life has settled down, plus all the new announcements today...
So my thing is, I was wondering: We don't know much lore on the new classes, but I do know that eventually I'd like to have my character know those traits (Machinist, Astrologian).
What do you think would be a proper way to start my character in a logical, story way towards these things, without actually doing them yet because we don't know anything?
RE: The New Classes - Steel Wolf - 12-20-2014
Well I recall people mentioning the Observatorium in Coerthas would be a good place to start with regards to Astrologian origins. I haven't personally snuffled around there myself, but perhaps there's some NPCs who could provide some insight in to their field of study and perhaps provide some context clues about how that leads into the Astrologian job.
Machinist...well that one just came outta left field. Doesn't appear to have any direct affiliation with what's going on now, bar some sort of re-purposed Garlean tech, perhaps. Or maybe a sect of inventors trying to outdo Garlemald?
Dark Knight is even shadier (hurr hurr), since there's pretty much no lore precedent to the job whatsoever. Near as I can figure, it's a sect of knights who have forsaken the usual chivalric code and adhere to might making right. How this ties to Ishgard or anywhere else? I can only guess.
Matter of fact, all of these are wild guesses. But perhaps food for thought. Or the ramblings of an idiot, more likely.
RE: The New Classes - E'irawen - 12-20-2014
Well, I suppose I'm curious mostly for the fact that I want to create a new character now that I'm rejoining the community. I don't think many people enjoyed my last character, so I don't really want to play him right now.
But I'm very, very strongly interested in making this character some form of the Astrologian. But without the info, I'm unsure of where I should start on his background.
RE: The New Classes - Edvyn - 12-20-2014
to start the machinist class your character could suffer from severe insomnia, leading them to become very thin. they are later involved in an accident which causes their coworker to lose their left arm which they themselves are blamed for. as time progresses, a series of strange events leave your character paranoid.
RE: The New Classes - Maril - 12-20-2014
When we know more lore, if it isn't something really restricted/hidden/secret, there's always the option of finding someone who is willing to teach your character. I'm slowly having my main learn how to use daggers (Not so much rogue, just how-to-stab) and I have given her an off-screen mentor that I mention in journals/hint to in RP. And then I let her use the blades more and more as per her learning curve, I'm 3 months in since dropping the first hint and she's approaching an intermediate state where she knows the basics but lacks the confidence and experience to back it up and make her better.Â
Perhaps when a full year has elapsed, she'll be closer to the end goal - When I have absences from the game, like vacations, I usually assign the awaytime to specific intensive training. Planning a year ahead with stuff like that might seem slow and uncertain because well, who knows what you're playing at that point, but I like to do it even so. It's also something you can tailor character progression events/storyarchs around as well down the line.Â
I'd imagine the lore has to explain why we haven't seen all of these things yet.
RE: The New Classes - Eve Malusion - 12-20-2014
If doing some speculation, I'd say a decent start for an eventual machinist would be with the Ul'dahn goldsmiths. Particularly the part that we don't interact with as goldsmiths ourselves, the ones that construct the mammets and wind-up toys. Not saying you can just come out of there and instantly be a machinist or anything, but its definitely a good place to start a tinkering career untill we know more.
I took a small trip to the observatory to talk to the NPCs, but alas, I remember none of the questing here anymore so I cannot fill in anything that may be revealed through that. The little they did mention was:
The observatory is under control of House Durendaire.
Its main (and as far as I can tell only) purpose is to predict when the Dravanian will attack again.
As might be obvious from the last point, they are able to do some sort of divination through astrology, and supposedly from the reports they give they can do this accurately. The furthest ahead of time concrete attack notice they've given, as far as I can tell, was for a fortnight, but Forlemont says "If we are to read our enemy's movements, we must be able to see ahead tens of years." Indicating longer is very much possible, though possibly less accurate.
As I am terrible with anything magic related I try not to speculate too much on how to turn this into wizardry, but I'd say its at least safe to say it will tie into Ishgard.
RE: The New Classes - Seriphyn - 12-20-2014
I can't imagine Kale not being able to wield a greatsword in-character...but given that there is no class, I sure hope he isn't mistaken for a dark knight.
Astrologian is clearly going to be Ishgard in origin. Machinist...maybe Ul'dah/Limsa Lominsa in origin, or just generic Eorzean. Dark knight is anyone's guess.
RE: The New Classes - Berrod Armstrong - 12-20-2014
(12-20-2014, 05:58 AM)Seriphyn Wrote: I can't imagine Kale not being able to wield a greatsword in-character...but given that there is no class, I sure hope he isn't mistaken for a dark knight.It's also possible that all three are from Ishgard, since the other city states also have three. But who knows for sure? Looking forward to finding out.
Astrologian is clearly going to be Ishgard in origin. Machinist...maybe Ul'dah/Limsa Lominsa in origin, or just generic Eorzean. Dark knight is anyone's guess.
RE: The New Classes - GloryRhodes - 12-20-2014
Am I the only one who looks at the goggles and wrenches and everything on the Machinist and just assumes you'll be based out of the Garlond Ironworks?
RE: The New Classes - Merri - 12-20-2014
(12-20-2014, 07:47 AM)GloryRhodes Wrote: Am I the only one who looks at the goggles and wrenches and everything on the Machinist and just assumes you'll be based out of the Garlond Ironworks?
This is the most plausible answer we have thus far. The Garlond Ironworks is the leading force in Magitek research & development for Eorzea at this point in time, and always has been. Everything considered, you'll likely be working with some one in the Ironworks and learning the finer points of Eorzean Magitek.
Either way! So psyched. Time to get some plotlines rolling for Merri! Likely won't main Machinist, as I'm gunning (shh) for Dark Knight right now, but damn it if the job isn't literally what Merri always has been way back since the start of 1.0. You know, without the guns.
I'msohappy.
/cough - If you're character is looking to learn a thing or two about Magitek, Merri's a pro~ ...Just sayin' - /cough
RE: The New Classes - Steel Wolf - 12-20-2014
Personally, I'm gonna have to think up some plotlines for Steel as well. I need to either find someone in-game who can perhaps lead her to the path of power...or she finds it herself and chronicles the whole thing in her journal (which is more likely the case).
Considering how empty the lore on all three classes is, I think there's perhaps a bit more wiggle room than in, say, Dragoon.
RE: The New Classes - Anzio - 12-20-2014
I know Anzio will definitely be a Machinist as he has already had some IC training with magitek firearms. Psyched that the job looks so fun.
RE: The New Classes - Oli! - 12-20-2014
Oli was always meant to be a gun-wizard, so this is 95% perfect.
My Roegadyn was supposed to be a Dark Knight for a long while too, so this is equally great.
Astrologian, meh. Astronomy is for poops.
RE: The New Classes - Sounsyy - 12-20-2014
I'm suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper psyched for Machinist. (Altho not ICly merp)
But I'll also throw in this possibility simply because it hasn't been said yet. Again, possibility.
Machinist could be goblin-tech related. The floating machine the Machinist pulled out didn't have a very Ironworks feel to it (from what we've seen) nor did it have a Garlean Magitek look, but it's colors and clunky design felt very Goblin to me? IDK, maybe just me. But we also have the Alexander Raid coming up in Heavensward which is a Goblin-made machine primal diety thing. So I'm putting my 2 gil on goblins.
RE: The New Classes - Kellach Woods - 12-20-2014
(12-20-2014, 11:30 AM)Sounsyy Wrote: Machinist could be goblin-tech related. The floating machine the Machinist pulled out didn't have a very Ironworks feel to it (from what we've seen) nor did it have a Garlean Magitek look, but it's colors and clunky design felt very Goblin to me? IDK, maybe just me. But we also have the Alexander Raid coming up in Heavensward which is a Goblin-made machine primal diety thing. So I'm putting my 2 gil on goblins.I'm far more willing to use gobbie friends tech than tech by people who'd rather be fishing.