(01-28-2015, 03:57 PM)Zhavi Wrote:

(01-28-2015, 03:46 PM)Iex Wrote:

(01-28-2015, 03:26 PM)Berrod Armstrong Wrote: One may need to appeal to others to nourish that sort of initiative, and it seems that the poster in question is determined to do anything but.

ANYWAY. HIGHLANDERS. I'M CURIOUS. How do you roleplay your characters? Well-integrated into their respective pieces of Eorzea? Clinging to the ol' warrior tribe in the mountain ways? As pretty princesses? TELL ALL!

I am a firm believer that it is not the culture that defines the character. While aspects of a race should certainly brush some tone over their perspective of life and choices, it should not be the tool that chips away their monument of their life.

Unless, their life was in a highly regulated cultural thing.... then I guess uh?

However, I am also a firm believer that it is the life the character lives that will define how they are. A certain seeker we all know that likes his towers certainly isn't falling into tradition. If a character has lived a life where tradition and culture more... common to his race has less weight, he shouldn't actually end up being SUPER TRADITIONAL MAN. If he is, it should be a choice he makes based on his life rather than an archetype placed on the character.

In the case of my highlander... he may be from a certain lost nation that was destroyed by a certain mad leader, but he holds very little on to traditions and nationalism. This is HIS Eorzea not the land of men who now lay six feet underground.

Culture does not equate to species or race.  Culture is usually more locative, though not necessarily (ex - some indigenous cultures in eastern russia and western alaska share more similarities than differences).  All the same, the larger the disparity in place/local ecology/method of survival (nomadic cultures vs farming cultures etc) chances are the bigger the gap in cultures.

Culture is also the baseline of what everyone knows in terms of how they act around others and what they grew up believing.  It defines certain behaviors.  While, yes, as you get older you can choose to overrule some of these things, a lot of them stick with you.  Were you taught that you should have a firm handshake?  Look other people in the eyes when you talk to them?  Greet people when you enter a room?  Wish people well on an endeavor?  Be comforting when someone you know is grieving?  Those are all cultural, and there are a ton more.  This is why diplomats are so important -- it can be terrifyingly easy to offend someone from a different culture without realizing it.  Many cultures share similarities, true, and those similarities increase as globalization occurs, but just look back to first attempts at diplomacy between cultures to see how this wasn't the case (Lord Macartney's trip to China being a big one).

which is why I was like 'screw u square' and tossed just about everything written about keeper culture.

(01-28-2015, 03:26 PM)Berrod Armstrong Wrote:

(01-28-2015, 03:21 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:

(01-28-2015, 03:13 PM)allgivenover Wrote:

(01-28-2015, 02:43 PM)Zhavi Wrote: When I want more of something (and I'm not finding it hard to rp like I am at the moment), I work to create a space where that sort of thing can flourish.  

I never thought of that before! I'll just hop back on my male Keeper Miqo'te and start a traditional clan based group that's highly matria-

Whoops.

What, exactly, is stopping you from making a Making Connections thread wanting to gather people to buck societal trends? I mean, there's a god damned Garlean FC and you're upset there's not a pre-existing off-beat RP culture for you? I said it in another thread today and it stands: Nobody here is obligated to cater their precious RP time serving someone else's need for a story. You want a traditional clan-based RP group? Then gtfo of the cities and go back to not being a part of traditional Eorzean society.

Whoops. No one's allowed to judge me, I've got my reasons for being more blunt than others.

One may need to appeal to others to nourish that sort of initiative, and it seems that the poster in question is determined to do anything but.

ANYWAY. HIGHLANDERS. I'M CURIOUS. How do you roleplay your characters? Well-integrated into their respective pieces of Eorzea? Clinging to the ol' warrior tribe in the mountain ways? As pretty princesses? TELL ALL!

(01-28-2015, 04:00 PM)Berrod Armstrong Wrote:

(01-28-2015, 03:57 PM)Zhavi Wrote: Culture does not equate to species or race.  Culture is usually more locative, though not necessarily (ex - some indigenous cultures in eastern russia and western alaska share more similarities than differences).  All the same, the larger the disparity in place/local ecology/method of survival (nomadic cultures vs farming cultures etc) chances are the bigger the gap in cultures.

Culture is also the baseline of what everyone knows in terms of how they act around others and what they grew up believing.  It defines certain behaviors.  While, yes, as you get older you can choose to overrule some of these things, a lot of them stick with you.  Were you taught that you should have a firm handshake?  Look other people in the eyes when you talk to them?  Greet people when you enter a room?  Wish people well on an endeavor?  Be comforting when someone you know is grieving?  Those are all cultural, and there are a ton more.  This is why diplomats are so important -- it can be terrifyingly easy to offend someone from a different culture without realizing it.  Many cultures share similarities, true, and those similarities increase as globalization occurs, but just look back to first attempts at diplomacy between cultures to see how this wasn't the case (Lord Macartney's trip to China being a big one).

which is why I was like 'screw u square' and tossed just about everything written about keeper culture.

While I would agree with this in general, if a fantasy universe defines a certain race by it's culture...I wouldn't really bother to disagree with it. What culture IS can change depending on how a world is crafted. I don't think this is what Square has done really, but it's something to note in terms of creating a whole world!

(01-28-2015, 04:49 PM)Bopdoot Wrote: I suppose I generally stand with those saying people can RP how they want and if you don't like it, no one is forcing you to RP with them.  In a community this size, that seems the most valid conclusion.

On the other hand, I'll speak as someone coming from relatively smaller RP communities on Neverwinter Nights, where the whole server is made up of 30 people at most online simultaneously.

You are absolutely entitled to break your race/class/socioeconomic/etc norms.  It's a good idea to include reasoning, but that is honestly at your discretion. That being said, especially in smaller RP communities, there is a certain resistance to and perhaps even a stigma with too many "snowflakes".  If everyone is special, you can lose some immersion in the story you are playing in.  Like playing a server with a plot centered on Amn and Athkatla and everyone wants to play a friendly do gooder tiefling.. or all the aasimar being evil. 

Hopefully that makes sense and doesn't come across judgmental.

(01-28-2015, 06:29 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: I never, ever remember to post eating/drinking.

(01-28-2015, 06:10 PM)Faye Wrote: To add to the initial post, I don't know if anyone has mentioned this--but some people simply prefer using short, non-descriptive posts. That's to say, if someone is playing a Miqo'te and doesn't mention ear/tail movements in their posts, it doesn't mean these movements aren't happening. Sure, this is why it's good to write clear, descriptive posts so everyone is on the same page about what's happening in the RP, but at the end of the day, it's just not everyone's personal taste or forte.

(01-28-2015, 04:34 PM)M Wrote: My Miqo'te character would make your heads explode, M'iraak Nuhn, and I am clan-less, harem-less, nor did I have to fight another for title of Huhn....

*mind.....blown*

(01-28-2015, 06:29 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: I never, ever remember to post eating/drinking.

(01-28-2015, 06:39 PM)Kage Wrote: A lot of the times I did RP as Miqo'te I'd do things, forgetting to add maybe a small detail but then realized... it was small and felt redundant.

And then... how many times are you going to really RP out ordering a drink, drinking it, and then getting more? over... and over... and over...