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Gideon Aryeh · **06-06-2013, 01:24 PM**

(06-06-2013, 01:18 PM)Blade Wrote:
(06-06-2013, 01:12 PM)Lanos Blaquesun Wrote: I offered the answer of equal support and a subforum dedicated to rp on the new choice of server. I said this right in my first post on this thread.

Now of course all of that is moot if rp servers are designated by Square Enix.

I don't really hold any power over how things are run here, but I can't see a subforum being that unreasonable of a thing to request. Â As far as equal support goes, I'm not quite sure what you specifically mean by that? Â What difference would you like to see?

A difference in the attitude, a difference in the attitude, we are all here for the same thing at the end of the day. I get the defense of Balmung, but so far it almost seems like those who are on other servers might be treated like red headed step children based on some of the responses. Yours included.

Like it or not everyone your game is now new. Things may change, rp communities do not need to put out a feel of exclusivity more than what is already perceived. I merely would like to see verbal support and a more open mindedness to the entire thing in general. Again we are all rpers who want to rp in FFXIV:ARR. Lets try to be more positive and support that for everyone eh?

Blade · **06-06-2013, 01:32 PM**

(06-06-2013, 01:24 PM)Lanos Blaquesun Wrote: A difference in the attitude, a difference in the attitude, we are all here for the same thing at the end of the day. I get the defense of Balmung, but so far it almost seems like those who are on other servers might be treated like red headed step children based on some of the responses. Yours included.

Like it or not everyone your game is now new. Things may change, rp communities do not need to put out a feel of exclusivity more than what is already perceived. I merely would like to see verbal support and a more open mindedness to the entire thing in general. Again we are all rpers who want to rp in FFXIV:ARR. Lets try to be more positive and support that for everyone eh?

I don't think that anyone who plays on another server would be treated poorly in any way. Thing is, they are going to be roleplayers who, for example, I'm likely never going to end up roleplaying with due to the split. Those on Moogle aren't going to end up roleplaying with my characters because at least at this stage, I'm really not going to be able to play multiple characters across two servers. I'll barely be able to RP on Balmung as it is.

I think the attitude you are perceiving is that people find it unfortunate that there will be members of the community who are likely in my situation who, in all likelihood, we're very unlikely to roleplay and create a history with. It's the reality of a dual server situation. No one here disrespects your decision to take to another server, and many have even encouraged it. But it is what it is.

Gideon Aryeh · **06-06-2013, 01:42 PM**

(06-06-2013, 01:32 PM)Blade Wrote:
(06-06-2013, 01:24 PM)Lanos Blaquesun Wrote: A difference in the attitude, a difference in the attitude, we are all here for the same thing at the end of the day. I get the defense of Balmung, but so far it almost seems like those who are on other servers might be treated like red headed step children based on some of the responses. Yours included.

Like it or not everyone your game is now new. Things may change, rp communities do not need to put out a feel of exclusivity more than what is already perceived. I merely would like to see verbal support and a more open mindedness to the entire thing in general. Again we are all rpers who want to rp in FFXIV:ARR. Lets try to be more positive and support that for everyone eh?

I don't think that anyone who plays on another server would be treated poorly in any way. Â Thing is, they are going to be roleplayers who, for example, I'm likely never going to end up roleplaying with due to the split. Â Those on Moogle aren't going to end up roleplaying with my characters because at least at this stage, I'm really not going to be able to play multiple characters across two servers. Â I'll barely be able to RP on Balmung as it is. Â

I think the attitude you are perceiving is that people find it unfortunate that there will be members of the community who are likely in my situation who, in all likelihood, we're very unlikely to roleplay and create a history with. Â It's the reality of a dual server situation. Â No one here disrespects your decision to take to another server, and many have even encouraged it. Â But it is what it is.

My decision? I stated previously that my character was built for Balmung, including his circumstances. He has amnesia, a typical Final Fantasy story. I put that in so that in case I run into anyone who icly wants to state that they knew him during the time of 1.0 they can.

I built my character to have a ic reason to fit in. My posts were not about me, they were about the community realizing the changes of a new community in 2.0 and dealing with them in a positive light. I wanted to represent the other side of the coin. Personally though I am waiting to see if SE designates a rp server. Right now my main is built for Balmung.

Nel Celestine · **06-06-2013, 01:43 PM**

Gameplay Disadvantages of exported characters:
While it is true that some players have leveled several jobs to high levels not all players have.Â In addition, the legacy system does not cover those characters.Â The player transfer system and final save on Nov 1st 2012 handled that.Â All characters regardless of level, server, gear, legacy status or otherwise have been saved and will be available in Phase 3, Phase 4 and final release of the game.Â Those characters will be restricted to the older servers from 1.x of the game as well.

This however, has no direct effect on the quality of RP within the server.Â Only earlier access to end game events, to which not all RPers are interested.Â Those that are interested however, have already put significant time and effort in preparation for the relaunch.Â Yes, some of these players will have a temporary advantage over a new player starting out.Â However, time is a great equalizer.Â Content will not be added every day or week.Â We will more then likely not even see new content every month or two.Â End game will be accessed by those dedicated towards getting there as well as those who are already there.

Short and sweet answer:Â The time it would take a new player to get to end game on either server would be the same if not easier with players helping out that are already high up.Â Not everyone levels at the same rate.

I'd like to add that I support the idea of a subform for a non legacy RP server should SE choose to name one as such.Â For the time being, I recommend adding one without the server name pending an answer from the company response.Â The current mods can govern it just fine.Â However I would strongly urge those who request this form to still interact with the community as a whole during this time.Â Get to know us.Â Interact with us.Â Participate in discussions without throwing the "Elitism" phrase around because most of us are not like that.Â We have discussions on the RP section.Â We have Art topics.Â Some people have RP'd together.Â Some have not.Â Some are friends despite disliking each other IC.Â We have a vibrant and diverse community that is accepting of all.Â Experienced and novice alike.Â We even have had a mentorship program appear as a result of this topic which is wonderful I feel.

Blade · **06-06-2013, 01:44 PM**

(06-06-2013, 01:42 PM)Lanos Blaquesun Wrote: My decision? I stated previously that my character was built for Balmung, including its circumstances. He has amnesia, I put that in so that in case I run into anyone who icly wants to state that they knew him during the time of 1.0 they can.

I built my character to have a ic reason to fit in. My posts were not about me, they were about the community realizing the changes of a new community in 2.0 and dealing with them in a positive light. I wanted to represent the other side of the coin. Personally though I am waiting to see if SE designates a rp server. Right now my main is built for Balmung.

Oh? I'm sorry, I must've missed that. Sorry, there's so much to read and keep track of in these posts. Either way, glad to have you aboard, looking forward to roleplaying with you. Smile

Averis · **06-06-2013, 03:23 PM**

I'd just like to add that I'm a legacy player, but I don't have a level 50 anything. So not everyone with legacy has a super established character. I'm also in no rush to get to the "end". I rather prefer to enjoy the journey.

As for the matter at hand, I'm in the wait and see position at this point.

- If there will be an official RP server, I'll likely start over there.

- If not, I'll stay on Balmung with the RPC.

If Balmung does in fact remain the main RP server I'm personally not too worried about it. As I said above, I've never made it to 50 anyway. I already realized that I was below the curve even in 1.0. Of course that's not an "okay" situation for everyone, but not everyone levels at the same speed and there will always be people that join a game later when the RP community is already established. You see all the time on MMO forums ask "What is the RP server?" We already know how small we are as a community overall, so most want to go where the majority are already established.

I think another solution would be to create a new linkshell/FC for new players instead of going to a new server. That way that group can establish its own lore and level together and still participate in server events that will likely create connections with already established linkshells etc. Not everyone is going to be closed off to new players. Even if some are, you wouldn't want to play with their type anyway.

I actually don't have an LS/FC at this point, but I plan to find one. Failing that, I may even create my own, and I would more than be eager to welcome new faces.

So don't disrepair too much. There will be some helping hands on Balmung if that does remain the RP server of choice and if you so decide to join there. And don't be too surprised if you pass me by in leveling even though I'm a legacy player. Wink

Magellan · **06-06-2013, 03:30 PM**

(06-06-2013, 03:23 PM)Averis Wrote: I'm also in no rush to get to the "end". I rather prefer to enjoy the journey.

Thiiiis... so much this! I rarely even get to endgame content, because to me, a game should be about getting there. Maybe that's just my years as a console gamer speaking up. Anyway, sorry to derail, back to our originally scheduled debate!

Anehki · **06-06-2013, 03:48 PM**

I've quite heard enough from here, Even if you lot demand an RP server, it is very unlikely they will ever make it Legacy, amusingly. From what I'm hearing it will be a new server, as said, there is so many OOC players on Balmung that it is hardly fair to force them out of their home so you can RP and make them follow to your rules.

I don't know, I really don't know, but I feel far from welcomed here, reading what I did and how you all see Balmung and go about RP is what made me want to role on Moogle.

In all honesty I've never met so many immature people in my life, instead of reasoning your basically saying go by our opinion or get out, so I'm leaving. I don't see this site thriving, I think the main RP community will be on the improved Lodestone hopefully. I see no mature discussion here, just walls of text, replied with walls of text, with more walls of text.

I'd like to thank those who tried to reason with the new players and help us, but I've taken the hint that yous have no interest in helping those who wish to start their new game on a new server, whilst not asking you to move, just asking to work together. Sums up people in general I guess.

I could ramble on forever, hehehe. Thank you anyways, but you've all painted a bad enough imperession for as it is and you remind me of a WoW RP server which died for the same reasons. xD

Basically I find this far from friendly for new players, and I'm tired of readin walls of text, like I just wrote.. it's boring and I have better things to do.

Have fun~ <3

Blade · **06-06-2013, 03:57 PM**

(06-06-2013, 03:48 PM)Ulteah Lockheart Wrote: In all honesty I've never met so many immature people in my life, instead of reasoning your basically saying go by our opinion or get out, so I'm leaving. I don't see this site thriving, I think the main RP community will be on the improved Lodestone hopefully. I see no mature discussion here, just walls of text, replied with walls of text, with more walls of text.

I'd like to thank those who tried to reason with the new players and help us, but I've taken the hint that yous have no interest in helping those who wish to start their new game on a new server, whilst not asking you to move, just asking to work together. Sums up people in general I guess.

I don't think anyone has indicated we wouldn't support other linkshells on other servers. In fact, much has been said to the contrary. I'm not sure where you got that impression. Maybe there was tone being misread. We've even been asking how we could best help you.

But best of luck to you and your endeavors.

Averis · **06-06-2013, 04:09 PM**

(06-06-2013, 03:48 PM)Ulteah Lockheart Wrote: I've quite heard enough from here, Even if you lot demand an RP server, it is very unlikely they will ever make it Legacy, amusingly. From what I'm hearing it will be a new server, as said, there is so many OOC players on Balmung that it is hardly fair to force them out of their home so you can RP and make them follow to your rules.

Have you actually listed what you wanted? The site owner actually asked "what do you want?" and I personally never saw a response other than this rant and something about using the lodestone. Sounds to me that you just want RPC to go away so you can establish a community yourself with YOUR own rules. Sounds like the same thing from the other side to me.

There isn't going to be a perfect solution that will make both sides happy. That's obvious. And with information about an official RP server still up in the air, we don't really have enough information to make a solid plan anyway.

As for immature, I don't see anyone else ranting and calling names.

Either way. I'm not one for splitting the community, but not like anyone can stop you either. So good luck!

Nel Celestine · **06-06-2013, 04:10 PM**

Unfortunately we seem to be at an inpass here and communication has been missed or ignored.Â Good luck and we wish you all the best in your endeavors.Â Should you choose to change your mind at a later date and play on Balmung as well as moogle, you will always find RPers here to play with.

Mods, I henceforth call for a lock on this thread.Â It no longer serves a purpose.

***Alothia*** · **06-06-2013, 04:13 PM**

I think that sounds reasonable for now, but I don't really want to do it without talking to Kylin first. It's up to him.

Kylin · **06-17-2013, 09:47 AM**

As promised, the thread has been restored. I am keeping it locked, however, in order to avoid a continuation of the arguing that took place. In addition, this is all a moot point now anyway. I invite everyone to read this thread: http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=2227

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