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Wilfstahl Swygynsyn · **12-29-2013, 02:40 AM**

So, I'm really starting to get into my Sea Wolf ICly, and need to type up a character sheet for him. Is there some place I could find the average height and weight of a roegadyn, even estimates?? Also, any lore, including aging processes etc., would be appreciated.

Flickering Ember · **12-29-2013, 02:53 AM**

Don't have access to FFXIV right now but I know you can look at the race/gender heights when you customize a retainer. I'm pretty sure max height for females is like 7'6" so males are going to be a few or so inches taller max.

For weight you're going to have to estimate since I don't believe there is any official info given. Do consider how tall and bulky roe's are so they probably weigh a lot more than humans do. Your six foot-ish average football player, for example, is probably going to be in the range of 230-300 ish pounds. A male roe is going to be probably a foot or so taller and much bulkier than a human football player. Tongue

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I know some may think something like 400-500 pounds may be extreme but as my personal guesstimate, I think it fits.Â But that also depends on what your roe is like.

Sounsyy · **12-29-2013, 02:55 AM**

Myranda Al'cyoene actually did a good post about race sizes and heightsÂ HERE. You can also use the in-game Character Creator and that will give you heights.

Roegadyn males ranged from between 84 and 91 ilms. Which is about 7 to 7.5 fulms (feet) tall. Roegadyn females are slightly shorter. I'm real bad with weights so I won't even attempt to guess how many ponz they weigh.Â

As for aging, there is no lore-definitive evidence suggesting the lifespan of a healthy Roegadyn. So it's anyone's guess. Ask for a source if someone says differently. ^^ I'd like to know myself if someone finds an obscure line of text somewhere.

Eliane Dufresne · **12-29-2013, 05:10 AM**

Well, for reference, a seven foot tall (human) man IRL would weigh around 250 lbs. I'd say if your character's female, it's probably about the same, considering muscle mass, etc. If your character is taller and male, you can probably just guesstimate to adjust this accordingly. Roe men get pretty beefy, and muscle weighs a lot. Wink

Rickter · **12-29-2013, 05:17 AM**

i found the heights and measurements i nthe Wiki on this very site. . .

Grinawaeba · **12-29-2013, 08:17 AM**

This is all really helpful, thank you all for sharing.

I too would be really curious if anyone runs across any obscure references to Roe aging and all that. I haven't noticed anything myself, or even very much by way of Roe lore in general / customs /etc. That kind of stuff is always really nice to fill in the gaps.

Sounsyy · **12-29-2013, 11:10 AM**

Yeah, there's not very much Sea Wolf lore. There's a considerable bit of Hellsguard though. They have some interesting beliefs and customs.

Asgarn · **12-29-2013, 02:24 PM**

Whilst we have the heights and weights near enough down, thought I'd throw in my two gil on the matter of ageing (bare in mind this is completely personal opinion/speculation given their physical traits, I cannot source a... Well... Source):

- Infant Roegadyn are likely born the same size as the average Hyur infant, I don't think I will need to explain the female anatomy to explain this. With this taken in to account and looking at the overall height Roegadyn achieve on average (around 7 feet or more), it would be fair to presume that the race in general would grow at an accelerated rate. Perhaps reaching their adult height by about their fourteenth - seventeenth year?

- There are youthful Roegadyn known to have completely white hair, so it is likely that silvering of hair is not a trait of ageing with the Sea Wolves (note I said Sea Wolves, for I have not yet seen a youthful Hellsguard with grey hair. As such, it's completely plausible this might not count for our redder skinned brethren).

- Ageing seems to mainly take effect on the Roegadyn through means of flesh and wrinkles. You can see this in the Roegadyn male character creation screen where at least two of the four faces look more "mature". It may also be possible that the individual's complexion may begin to lack luster as they age, becoming more chalky grey, etc.

- Given the physiology of the race, Roegadyn are most like the Causasian human bone structure than any other (ignoring their faces. Last I checked, no humans have dog-like noses...). Taking this in to account, it is likely that in their elder years their shoulders will contract, pushing their neck forward and giving them a slight hunch.

- I would imagine the actual bones of the Roegadyn wouldn't get that much weaker in old age like humans, due to the considerable weight they would still have to haul around. However, in heavyset builds it is not uncommon to see things such as arthritis develop in later years. As such, whilst your elderly Roegadyn might not have weak bones, it would be plausible to have them have joint issues. Of course any internal organ issues, like with all other races, are completely plausible dependant upon the life your character has lead.

Again, all of this is pure speculation. I am merely using my knowledge of anatomy and physiology to make these estimations. Please don't shoot me if they are wrong.

Eliane Dufresne · **12-30-2013, 04:11 AM**

(12-29-2013, 11:10 AM)Sounsyy Wrote: Yeah, there's not very much Sea Wolf lore. There's a considerable bit of Hellsguard though. They have some interesting beliefs and customs.

This makes me curious. Do you have a particular go-to spot for lore? I've had to scrimp all over the internet for what little Roe lore there is, and I would have said the two clans were more or less fleshed out equally just based on what I found. But if you've found some things I've missed, I'd love to know about it! Got any links to share? Smile

Sounsyy · **12-30-2013, 04:29 PM**

(12-30-2013, 04:11 AM)Striding Oak Wrote:
(12-29-2013, 11:10 AM)Sounsyy Wrote: Yeah, there's not very much Sea Wolf lore. There's a considerable bit of Hellsguard though. They have some interesting beliefs and customs.

This makes me curious. Do you have a particular go-to spot for lore? I've had to scrimp all over the internet for what little Roe lore there is, and I would have said the two clans were more or less fleshed out equally just based on what I found. But if you've found some things I've missed, I'd love to know about it! Got any links to share?

I've got a few actually. I've found the best places for lore are in-fact kinda spread out. You've gotta dig around in a few sweet spots. Most of the best lore is found in obscure sentences haha.

Roegadyn Naming Conventions
Roegadyn Dictionary
Azurymber's Lore Compilation
An Eorzean Timeline
Fernehalwes Discusses Sea Wolf Illiteracy
Official Lore Forum
The Lore Train

Hope some of these places help! Also hope you don't get lost and we never see you again.

C'kayah Polaali · **12-30-2013, 06:18 PM**

(12-29-2013, 02:24 PM)Asgarn Wrote: - I would imagine the actual bones of the Roegadyn wouldn't get that much weaker in old age like humans, due to the considerable weight they would still have to haul around. However, in heavyset builds it is not uncommon to see things such as arthritis develop in later years. As such, whilst your elderly Roegadyn might not have weak bones, it would be plausible to have them have joint issues. Of course any internal organ issues, like with all other races, are completely plausible dependant upon the life your character has lead.

Your post is gold, Asgarn, but I do have to take exception to this bit. You see arthritis and other conditions like that develop in heavyset humans because those people are outliers - far heavier than the average humans even a thousand years ago. Roegadyn are supposed to be that big, so I'd guess that they wouldn't have those problems as a whole.

You can look at elephants as a parallel. Elephants in the wild tend to be active their entire lives, and typically live pretty free of such ailments. Captive elephants usually can't get the activity they need, frequently get overweight, and do tend to suffer from cardiovascular problems and arthritis. It's clear that it's only the outlier animals that have the problem, despite all of them being big.Â

Roegadyn seem to have a culture that values remaining vigorous (just from looking at all the Roe NPCs in the game) your entire life, so I'd hazard a guess that they remain strong and limber until they really become elderly.

Asgarn · **12-30-2013, 07:14 PM**

(12-30-2013, 06:18 PM)C Wrote:
(12-29-2013, 02:24 PM)Asgarn Wrote: - I would imagine the actual bones of the Roegadyn wouldn't get that much weaker in old age like humans, due to the considerable weight they would still have to haul around. However, in heavyset builds it is not uncommon to see things such as arthritis develop in later years. As such, whilst your elderly Roegadyn might not have weak bones, it would be plausible to have them have joint issues. Of course any internal organ issues, like with all other races, are completely plausible dependant upon the life your character has lead.
Your post is gold, Asgarn, but I do have to take exception to this bit. You see arthritis and other conditions like that develop in heavyset humans because those people are outliers - far heavier than the average humans even a thousand years ago. Roegadyn are supposed to be that big, so I'd guess that they wouldn't have those problems as a whole.

You can look at elephants as a parallel. Elephants in the wild tend to be active their entire lives, and typically live pretty free of such ailments. Captive elephants usually can't get the activity they need, frequently get overweight, and do tend to suffer from cardiovascular problems and arthritis. It's clear that it's only the outlier animals that have the problem, despite all of them being big.Â

Roegadyn seem to have a culture that values remaining vigorous (just from looking at all the Roe NPCs in the game) your entire life, so I'd hazard a guess that they remain strong and limber until they really become elderly.

My first thought when I finished reading this was: "Roegadyn r elephant.Â Geek

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My thanks for what you said about my observations, it's good to know I'm not a completely crazed conspiracy-spinning maniac. But aye, I had not taken in to account the fact that they, as a race, were meant to be such a size. So, that correction can be noted by anyone reading this in the future! ^_^ (I won't edit the original post due to not wanting to seem all "Oh my god, I can't be wrong. *Hyper-ventilates*") Thanks for pointing it out!Â Smile

Eliane Dufresne · **12-30-2013, 08:11 PM**

(12-30-2013, 04:29 PM)Sounsyy Wrote: I've got a few actually. I've found the best places for lore are in-fact kinda spread out. You've gotta dig around in a few sweet spots. Most of the best lore is found in obscure sentences haha.

Roegadyn Naming Conventions
Roegadyn Dictionary
Azurymber's Lore Compilation
An Eorzean Timeline
Fernehalwes Discusses Sea Wolf Illiteracy
Official Lore Forum
The Lore Train

Hope some of these places help! Also hope you don't get lost and we never see you again.

Awesome stuff! Some of these I haven't seen before. Thank you. Big Grin

Roegadyn Physical Dimensions/Lore

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