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Kuji The GR8 Wolf · **11-12-2016, 11:37 PM**

(11-12-2016, 07:51 PM)Aegir Wrote: I think if you want to grow your group, you should just run lots of events. That'll help you meet new people and it'll show the community that you're active. Advertise here, on tumblr, and in party finder. I've had a lot of fun joining events in party finder~

Yeah told and showed my friends in our RP-FCÂ this forum it's helped us out a lot. We're going to use the party finder for that a lot, also was thinking of making an LS for those who are already in FC's that can still join and RPÂ with everyone else.

Silmanos · **11-13-2016, 03:19 AM**

(11-12-2016, 11:34 PM)Kuji The GR8 Wolf Wrote: It is kinda like white knights but close, our RP does not think everything is 100%, rather that everyone has darkness in them as well as light. We just look at our world and see just how broken it is. It mostly like the Soul Society from Bleach (Anime). But going alone with the FFXIV lore, which of course out own spin on it without going overboard with it. Not Gods or anything like that.Â

Example: my character Kuji is not perfect he grew up in little al migo (sorry for the spelling) 2 la's raised him till he went off on his to find his place. Which all changed when an unknown primal contacted him (not evil primal). The short version is that the primal broke his body down into 9 different crystals gave them kuji. Then he met Hydaelyn who know the primal following my character around.Â

If any of that makes any sense ^^; still makes any sense to you.

So as far as lore compliance there is nothing in the FF universe that would conform to that. All primals must be summoned by someone/a group of people and they are nothing but a physical embodiment of the desires and wishes of those who summon them. In addition a Primal's body immediately dissipates upon its death so it would not be able to be broken down into crystals, or at least there is nothing in lore that suggests that being possible seeing as the closest thing would be white auracite but that is extremely temporary. This does not of course take account that the scions actively monitor for primal summoning and hunt them down. As for the Hydalen part so far the only indication of Hydalen speaking to anyone in Lore are those with the Blessing of Light, or those close to one with the Blessing of Light. A very very very very rare thing indeed.

That said no one is going to tell you how to RP and you are free to RP what you want. That is just criticism based on the lore itself. In addition by having things like that it can indeed limit those who may be willing to rp something that deviates from the established lore like that and can also be a possible reason why you are having a hard time with recruitment. It is very niche and you would have to find those interested in such a niche.

Valence · **11-13-2016, 05:27 AM**

(11-13-2016, 03:19 AM)Silmanos Wrote: So as far as lore compliance there is nothing in the FF universe that would conform to that. All primals must be summoned by someone/a group of people and they are nothing but a physical embodiment of the desires and wishes of those who summon them. In addition a Primal's body immediately dissipates upon its death so it would not be able to be broken down into crystals, or at least there is nothing in lore that suggests that being possible seeing as the closest thing would be white auracite but that is extremely temporary.

That is... incorrect though.

Shiva and avatar-Thordan are prime example of willingly and conscious summoned primals. They are special in that the Scions were very surprised to see something like this being possible.

Shiva, as well as Thordan, are living mortals turned into primal forms as long as they have enough energy at their disposal for doing so (Iceheart/Shiva with your usual fare of crystals, Thordan with the aether-infused eye of Nidhogg).

I also believe that White auracite, or at least auracite (we are still not sure of the difference between both), is actually perfectly able to capture and hold a primal almost indefinitely, at least of the standard kind (maybe not an eikon like the warring triad or bahamut, but that's speculation). We know it's only temporary in the case of Ascians considering their power.

However, we also know that the Warriors of Light of the 13rd Shard (the shard that turned into the Void), like Cuchulainn, used auracite in their weapons to siphon primal energies and imprison them inside, using them as a source of power. We also know that the seal is not perfect (as it seems to always be the case with auracite) and it allowed those corrupted energies to sip through it and taint those Warriors of Light progressively, turning them into voidsent monsters of incredible strength.

Parth Makeo · **11-13-2016, 11:34 AM**

Role-playing takes time and a lot of effort. I always feel like I'm just repeating what everyone has mentioned but it's true. Good story and characters take time to build.

I saw your FC but as a person who plays an honorable free paladin, I felt as if it was missing something. Perhaps you can include Light PVE elements for group content like dungeons. I know the FC companies my characters joined do some scheduled content that is live in game. Whether it be savage Alexander runs or just some old primal grinds.

Offer to balmung some kind of other reason to join aside just RP. Give a chance to play in a completely ooc enviorment so they all can get to know you. At least that is my two cents.

Silmanos · **11-13-2016, 03:35 PM**

I will grant that Shiva and Thordan were definitely a departure from the norm on Primals though that has a lot do with how they are summoned. Using something like that can still be a bit iffy because they go against a lot of what we know about primals and have seen no other examples aside from those two. Is it impossible? No. Is it likely? Not really. As for the white auracite the only issue I can really see with usung it is that SE seems to not be able to agree with itself on that one. It can hold primal energies but the question becomes how much. Its very much stated that a soul of an ascian is too much for it to hold indefinitely. That said I can agree that it can hold some enrgy from a primal but doubtful in the means that are being looked at here. Honestly I wish we knew more about it, because just from how things are written in the msq I get the feeling that is far from a common mineral.

Valence · **11-14-2016, 05:32 AM**

Primals are maybe not locked in there in their entirety. The only thing the lorebook states is that Cuchulainn's band of WoL slayed primals with the help of auracite, they captured their essence. Maybe as a whole, or maybe just, what remained, or a weakened form. Nothing is certain for now.

And yes, it doesn't seem to be a common crystal yeah definitely not.

Maia · **11-14-2016, 10:50 AM**

I think something else to consider is... how many people are you trying to recruit? It might be good to have a clear vision in mind of the group size you're aiming for, and include that in your advertising. A lot of people find small, cozy RP communities appealing, because every person matters by default (if that's what you're going for.)

You could also advertise your RP group as "lore-flexible" or "lore-creative" upfront, and explain that you welcome unorthodox or atypical backstories. Many of the RP groups that already exist are labeled "lore-abiding" (my own included), so it could be to your benefit to express that you're offering something different in that regard.

But I'll go ahead and echo what others have said: to make a guild that people want to stay in, it requires a lot of work. The work is very often unfun and can feel like a second job at times, but that's just how it is. Also, the larger your group grows, the more work it will become. If you talk to any FC or LS leader who's been at the head of a large group for over a year, you might be surprised to hear how little time they have for their own RP and such.

Having an organized and uncluttered website that clearly communicated the IC and OoC vision of your guild can help. I'd also agree that having a "no drama" policy is good, although I would still be open to constructive feedback (which you seem to be.) In the Guild I run, we do an OoC sit-down with all new members at both 2 weeks and 4 weeks, to ask how they're feeling so far and to poke them for what's working and what we can change to make things better. Due to our size and the amount of work it takes to run, we also have "HR Admins" set aside to field any grievances or feedback that requires prompt attention (since it can take a day or two for officers to get back with someone due to our workload.) That may not be a helpful suggestion to you in the short term, but if you're aiming for a "large" RP group, it may be helpful to you.

Best of luck!

Faye · **11-14-2016, 12:50 PM**

To be perfectly honestly with you, your FC concept is very niche, so I believe you will always have a difficult time finding a large amount of people to join with that concept in mind. Others have touched on all my other thoughts, so I will say that if I were in the market for the FC and saw your listing, I would not join for two primary reasons beyond what others have stated...

1. It's very anime/shonen based, going so far as to reference Bleach. Not necessarily a bad thing, just not what I am into and not what I believe fits the setting and makes for a conducive RP style here in XIV, hence why I said it's very niche.

2. It just seems entirely centered around you/your character. The Primal that you have created (which is already a turn off for me, personally) shares the same name as your character and your forum handle, and appears to have been some perfect entity, and all your FC members are basically the Primal's worshippers and "chosen ones." The fact you felt the need to post your character's entire lengthy and detailed biography within the FC advertisement thread certainly does not help lessen the worry that the FC's story and RP will gravitate around your own character and leave little room for others. Maybe that's not the case at all, but that is the vibe this gives off, and it's important you make your FC ad appealing if you want to attract new members.

Roger Holmes · **11-15-2016, 02:20 PM**

I'm going to have to agree with what others have said about the FC page feeling a bit niche. Going to go over a few points from what I saw.

I can understand a unique primal being summoned, but "coming into this world" seems off. It has to be based on certain circumstances that seem reasonable to lore. It's 'people' must have summoned him into the world, not him just 'coming' into the world on its own. It's people would had to have collected crystals or another means of power to summon it, and either enfuse the desires of the summoners into its persona, or having to have been an actual person beforehand. Shiva and Thordan(plus crew) don't follow this embodying, but they had the power as well as the prayers/desires of their followers (heretics and citizens of Ishgard respectively) in order to transform into primals. Shiva was able to do it without the powersource she used initially, but it was due to previous experience and wasn't nearly as powerful.Â

The followers were always present so you would have to work in what the followers were doing before the summoning, where they gained the powersource for the summoning, and why the followers summoned this Kuji into the world in the first place.

Also having the other nations 'find out' about this power rings very Naruto-ish to me with the tailed beasts being kept hidden inside a medium and the nations trying to control them whilst getting rid of the other jinchuriki (your difference being that it is hidden within crystals). I feel like most people aren't fans of that show so that might turn some potential recruits away... Also nations aren't seeking out primals, heck they are afraid of them. Only the Ascians desire to manipulate them for their own ends (and Garleans to an extent with Ultima Weapon), which you could totally tie that into this. Say that Ascians are seeking out and trying to control this primal rather than nations, and make a plot involving Ascians.

Giving the followers special powers seems too much like powerplay to me. No primal has done that to my knowledge. You can't have the primals power be hidden within crystals, be untraceable, AND being able to bestow such powers on people that follow the primal. There has to be flaws or else it's hard to build RP off of a perfect system of protection and power. There has to be a connection between the primal and the follower for such a power to be maintained, and that connection should be able to be sensed by anyone that can sense aetherial signals. Maybe tone it down to being able to sense other followers and give some room to RP to develop all of your character's skills rather than it being bestowed on them.

Also stating that it's based on Soul Society twice is a little repetitive. In addition, not everyone has seen that show so you should describe what that entails in terms of structure as well as purpose. Also writing your character's whole profile in a FC post seems really off, like I can understand putting a link to your RPC Wiki page, but a whole post just on your character? Big nono to me.

Now I'm not saying to scrap the whole idea/concept, but some changes should be done to make it more appealing for newcomers. I think this concept can work and I hope it does for you and your members, just have to put some work into it. As for RP FC plots, you can do a myriad of things:

1. The power used to summon Kuji. What was it and does someone else try to use it? (villain plot)
2. Having Ascians trying to manipulate this primal (can have people Ascian-alligned outside the FC be a part of this too)
3. Looking for more followers that may have lost their way.
4. Kuji getting corrupted and having to restore it back to it's normal state.
5. Crystal(s) being stolen.

There's quite alot that you can do and once you start to develop a story, people will be interested in it (especially if you do plots in public where passerbys can experience it firsthand). Good luck!

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