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Zyrusticae · **07-19-2013, 01:01 AM**

(07-18-2013, 05:31 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote: That's not to say that individuals, of course, may not experience varying levels of "squick" at their own culture, depending on the personalities in question and the closeness of the biological relationship involved. "Call me Daddy," indeed.

I haven't read through the entire thread (great thread, btw), but this caught my eye.

Much of the "squick" factor with relation to incestuous relationships has to do with physical proximity over an extended period of time, particularly during the formative years. You will get a similar "squick" reaction from two adopted children who are completely unrelated physically, for example. Meanwhile, a brother and sister who are directly descended from the same parents but haven't ever met each other before they hit puberty will have no problem getting it on (hence the portrayal of Luke and Leia kissing in Star Wars is actually quite accurate).

I have no idea how this works with regard to Miqo'te due to a lack of knowledge about their particular living arrangements, but I assume the constant rotation of Nunh helps to quell this effect.

FreelanceWizard · **07-19-2013, 01:11 AM**

(07-19-2013, 01:01 AM)Zyrusticae Wrote: Much of the "squick" factor with relation to incestuous relationships has to do with physical proximity over an extended period of time, particularly during the formative years. You will get a similar "squick" reaction from two adopted children who are completely unrelated physically, for example. Meanwhile, a brother and sister who are directly descended from the same parents but haven't ever met each other before they hit puberty will have no problem getting it on (hence the portrayal of Luke and Leia kissing in Star Wars is actually quite accurate).

I have no idea how this works with regard to Miqo'te due to a lack of knowledge about their particular living arrangements, but I assume the constant rotation of Nunh helps to quell this effect.

Yep. My recollection is that the incest taboo seems to have an instinctual wiring, and it seems to be triggered by seeing a family member during those formative years. I'll have to hit up my SO for the study reference, since it escapes me. Nunh rotation and a large breeding population where the nunh doesn't breed with every female (and where it's entirely possible for half-brothers and half-sisters to not see each other -- say, because the territory is large and nunh is basically a travelling, um, "genetic salesman") would seem to be important elements.

Desmond Aryll · **07-19-2013, 01:26 AM**

(07-19-2013, 01:11 AM)FreelanceWizard Wrote: "genetic salesman"

lol. Quick! Somebody RP'ing a male Miqo'te change their User Profile tag to this.

Swift · **07-19-2013, 02:01 AM**

(07-19-2013, 01:26 AM)Desmond Aryll Wrote: lol. Quick! Somebody RP'ing a male Miqo'te change their User Profile tag to this.

Done, for the lulz ;D
(Will have to change it back soon though, before anyone without the context of this thread thinks I'm a weirdo xD)

On topic:
I'm really enjoying all the insight that's being slung around in here. I have a feeling that by the end of things, we'll have a plausibly-solid idea of how to work out the details associated with our Miqo'te families.

Kitty Wizard · **07-19-2013, 02:29 AM**

(07-19-2013, 12:36 AM)Callipygian Wrote:
(07-19-2013, 12:15 AM)Kitty Wizard Wrote: I was just curious - if the Keepers have family units that are less tribe-like in dynamic, does that mean that rather than sires and mothers, there is the regular ol' mother-father parentage?Â
"Though there are ten suffixes listed above, rarely do even the largest Keeper of the Moon families have more than two or three sons. This is not by choice. Nature merely sees to it that more females are born to this race."

This quote comes from the wiki on this site describing naming conventions for Moon males.Â In a case where you have significantly more of one gender than the other, monogamy is the exception rather than the rule.Â You could have a monogamous family to be sure (especially when two individuals forge a strong romantic bond), but there must be some sort of compromise in the society as a whole to deal with the lack of males.

More likely is that the "tribes" (communities) consist of several closely related families of females.Â For example, I plan to have Myxie's tribe consist of Myxie's mother and siblings, Myxie's aunt's family, Myxie's grandmother, and two families of Myxie's distant cousins.Â The only males in the group are boys.Â Once they reach majority, wanderlust kicks in (and the fact that all the immediate females are closely related and well-known to them since childhood, thus not desirable mates).

I remember reading somewhere that Moon males were particularly nomadic.Â My guess, and the way I'm playing Myxie's tribe, is that males wander around, occasionally visiting Moon communities.Â Receptive females breed with them, but don't really develop strong romantic ties, and the children are raised in a more communal manner with Aunts and Grandmothers aiding and filling in the father's role of alternate caretaker.

If they all settled down or tried to enforce some sort of monogamous system, it would be monogamous in name only.Â There'd be a LOT of adultery in the form of females unable to find mates who weren't attached and a generally high amount of drama.Â Considering the two clans likely shared a breeding system at some point in the past before they diverged, I see no reason why monogamy would have developed when there is still a major gender gap.

Thank-you very much, that was incredibly helpful! \o/ It gives me a better idea of how she was raised, and it makes sense that they wouldn't have the typical father-husband dealio when you put it like that. I'll treat it the way you suggested. Digging the female influence though!

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