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Aris · **11-23-2014, 01:20 PM**

I think they're ideal for RP - to me they look like regular, normal, NPC clothes, but a bit nicer than the hempen shirt style for example. It would be nice to have some more items similar Smile

I agree, it would be nice if they weren't race/gender locked.

I would use them if Aris was one of the other races but the Miqo'te ones don't really suit her character, except maybe the boots. I use the lalafell ones though, they're adorable.

Gegenji · **11-23-2014, 01:24 PM**

Chachan regularly runs around in basically his starting outfit, with his top replaced with the equally low-level race undershirt to better fit the hot temperatures of Ul'dah. I really like the pants because they come with little pouches that I like to think he keeps his gil and jerky treats for Gran in.

Dasair · **11-23-2014, 01:34 PM**

I actually use the elezen pants as part of my RP gear pretty regularly, but it fits the character and looks good with the rest of the stuff I use for him. Â Considering he's a caster, it's not too farfetched that he could also use it for battle as well, since most pants mages seem to get are.. basically very simple pants with little armor value to speak of. Â (At least from what I've seen so far.)

In general, I think using parts of the starting gear, or even all of it, for RP makes perfect sense, and considering aesthetics, it's one of the things that does have a lot more design elements in it should it fit the character well.

My only cringey thing about the starting gear is the lack of stats on it; but that's entirely from a fear in previous games (though a little, this one too) where your gear is the source of all a character's 'strength', and if I should be caught by a high level monster out RPing somewhere, I'd be murdered. Â Currently, this fear is pretty unfounded; in fact, I've beat on things forgetting I was in RP gear for a while, so unless I go into a higher dungeon unawares, this is just something I need to get over. Â Doesn't stop me from using the gear for RP though. (Plus there are always glamours!)

Eva · **11-23-2014, 02:17 PM**

I do use my starting outfit once in awhile for more casual stuff when that comes about. Â I like the elezen starting gear, but my favorite is the gear for hyur women with the corset. Â The character has a fondness for corsetted style clothing so we have long lamented not being able to be able to wear the hyur gear.

K'nahli · **11-23-2014, 02:45 PM**

I see it as a pretty typical piece of clothing. I don't over-analyze it too much. The super-bulky armoured players with their relic weapons having a cup of tea in the Quicksand or whatever strikes me as odd though.

Jana · **11-23-2014, 04:43 PM**

(11-23-2014, 01:34 PM)Dasair Wrote: My only cringey thing about the starting gear is the lack of stats on it; but that's entirely from a fear in previous games (though a little, this one too) where your gear is the source of all a character's 'strength', and if I should be caught by a high level monster out RPing somewhere, I'd be murdered. Â Currently, this fear is pretty unfounded; in fact, I've beat on things forgetting I was in RP gear for a while, so unless I go into a higher dungeon unawares, this is just something I need to get over. Â Doesn't stop me from using the gear for RP though. (Plus there are always glamours!)

All one really needs to beat on level 50 overworld mobs in FFXIV is a high iLv weapon; not too long ago I stormed Zanr'ak with an i90 SMN book and sub-level 10 clothing. Though Titan-Egi taking aggro helped a lot for mobbing, it's no big deal if just 1 monster spawns on top of you during RP.

Mae · **11-23-2014, 05:28 PM**

I use the starting RSE boots and gloves fairly often on Kara(Highlander), and I'd probably get more use out of the top if I could dye it.
Mallow(Lala) uses the top and hands when she's being dressy... Whisper(Roegy) uses the pants... I think that's it.

TheLastCandle · **11-23-2014, 06:01 PM**

I really like the Lalafell starting gear. The brief time I spent as a Lalafell, I felt like a li'l hobbit.

Cliodhna Eoghan · **11-23-2014, 09:48 PM**

Before I was able to get some more pieces that fit the style; I had that little red starter skirt on constantly and still wear that (and other starter pieces) pretty frequently. As long as you don't feel the clothes in question are out if character, I don't see why you can't wear starter stuff.

Seriphyn · **11-23-2014, 10:41 PM**

I think it's fine to RP in, but from what the NPC first says to you "Judging by your clothes, you must be a new adventurer", I do wonder what cultural origin they're from? They seem generic, and all of a matching style despite being specific to each race.

Elysia · **11-25-2014, 07:20 AM**

I actually use my Hyur character's starter top a lot, because it just seems to fit her personality and preferences better than a lot of the mage gear one finds between levels 10-40. (Also because Level 50 is still a long way away for meÂ Cry

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I came up with an IC excuse for the 'commonness' of her outfit too - she's a new adventurer, needs to travel light, her old heavy dresses from her upper-class Ul'dah life don't make sense and she doesn't have much money for fancier garb anyway.

Zyrusticae · **11-25-2014, 12:41 PM**

(11-23-2014, 12:58 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: That's the thing, they gendered the outfits so what we like on either side we can't take, which kind of sort of sucks.

Yeah, this one really, really annoys me. Same with the hairstyles. Forced gendering feels really bad when you're trying to play a character that lies outside the gender norm (T'rahnu, for example, is most at home with a simple short haircut and a masculine style of dress).

Fortunately, the racial outfits and the relic armors (drachen mail stomach window, the kunoichi outfit, bard cleavage window, and so on) are exceptions rather than the norm, and the majority of outfits are good about this, but it's still annoying when some of those racial outfits are really good for both sexes. That being said, a lot of them don't even make sense being race-specific - I think they should be available for all races, really.

(11-23-2014, 02:45 PM)Knahli Wrote: I see it as a pretty typical piece of clothing. I don't over-analyze it too much. The super-bulky armoured players with their relic weapons having a cup of tea in the Quicksand or whatever strikes me as odd though.

Heh, yes. It does make sense for those characters who just came back from a sortie or whatever and just want a quick drink, but it's kind of hard to relax in heavy plate armor (especially considering the sort of heat Ul'dah is known for).

Roswyn · **11-25-2014, 04:48 PM**

Merri hit the nail on the head imo.

Only thing that comes off kinda silly to me is when ppl rp with very SHINY weapons. More of a personal thing than a lore thing though.

Cato · **12-01-2014, 08:35 AM**

I'd be surprised if anybody had a problem with it. The starter attire is pretty detailed and aesthetically pleasing. Arguably more so than a lot of the mismatched gear that a character can end up stuck with until they snag themselves a set that matches what they seek to portray.

D'aito Kuji · **12-02-2014, 04:00 PM**

D'aito wears her starter boots when lounging and her starter top in combination with other bottoms. Â I rarely have her wear the entire starter outfit. Â But I am fond of the top and the boots.

ICly, they have sentimental value as they are the first "glamourous" things she purchased for herself once she was sufficiently independent as an adventurer. Â Her tastes have since grown a little more sophisticated.

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