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Gegenji · **02-10-2015, 01:53 PM**

(02-10-2015, 01:46 PM)Cylin Wrote: Another, admittedly small thing, that you should do is avoid buying gear on the market boards unless absolutely necessary.

I think the only things I buy off market boards are the crafting relic sets for pretties... and basic mats for crafting (and sometimes just the straight item I need for a turnin, if I'm feeling especially lazy). Still not the best way to make gil, but it's a "time and energy" situation, usually.

But yeah. If you have the bag space, I'd also recommend keeping most of the gear you pick up while leveling a class, especially crafters/gatherers. Since they share equipment, you can swap between them as you level those classes. That saves you money re-buying them, and also gets you a chance to soulbound with them while they're use, which means materia.

It's... kinda what I've been doing on both my characters. Keeping every piece of gear if I've used it any and only replacing it when it's been turned into materia to be sold.

I'm such a hoarder. :<

Desu Nee · **02-10-2015, 01:54 PM**

I'm not on End Game and frankly I'm poor as hell so I am spiritbonding and doing the dailies. Any tips for non end game gil making?

Inessa Hara · **02-10-2015, 02:13 PM**

I make 70% of my in-game money through RP services because im an IC detective.

I know, I know, im horrible for charging RP, but hell, if you need me to do something and its a special request or different from what I usually do, better be expected to pay a little for quality IC services.

Otherwise, the rest of the money comes from Materia/crop farming. I would work on crafts but I need money to do crafts and I would do endgame but nobody wants to do endgame anymore. It's so hard to make money now in the game.Â Dx

SicketySix · **02-10-2015, 02:22 PM**

Gear from the market board is where a good chunk of my $$$ went.

Though I understand it's to expensive, I was way undergeared for tanking Halatali, I managed to do it without any in the party dying but lost aggro a lot. So I went to the market boards and brought my gear rating from 12 to 21.

SicketySix · **02-10-2015, 02:23 PM**

(02-10-2015, 02:13 PM)Inessa Hara Wrote: I make 70% of my in-game money through RP services because im an IC detective.

I know, I know, im horrible for charging RP, but hell, if you need me to do something and its a special request or different from what I usually do, better be expected to pay a little for quality IC services.

Otherwise, the rest of the money comes from Materia/crop farming. I would work on crafts but I need money to do crafts and I would do endgame but nobody wants to do endgame anymore. It's so hard to make money now in the game.Â Dx

That's actually really cool....

Inessa Hara · **02-10-2015, 02:28 PM**

(02-10-2015, 02:23 PM)A Wrote:
(02-10-2015, 02:13 PM)Inessa Hara Wrote: I make 70% of my in-game money through RP services because im an IC detective.

I know, I know, im horrible for charging RP, but hell, if you need me to do something and its a special request or different from what I usually do, better be expected to pay a little for quality IC services.

Otherwise, the rest of the money comes from Materia/crop farming. I would work on crafts but I need money to do crafts and I would do endgame but nobody wants to do endgame anymore. It's so hard to make money now in the game.Â Dx

That's actually really cool....

Really? I only started doing this because it was getting harder to make money. I may stop charging once I have a stable income again. Right now though, income is really shaky so I need something to keep me afloat.

Gegenji · **02-10-2015, 02:39 PM**

(02-10-2015, 02:28 PM)Inessa Hara Wrote:
(02-10-2015, 02:23 PM)A'mon Vespar Wrote:
(02-10-2015, 02:13 PM)Inessa Hara Wrote: I make 70% of my in-game money through RP services because im an IC detective.

I know, I know, im horrible for charging RP, but hell, if you need me to do something and its a special request or different from what I usually do, better be expected to pay a little for quality IC services.

Otherwise, the rest of the money comes from Materia/crop farming. I would work on crafts but I need money to do crafts and I would do endgame but nobody wants to do endgame anymore. It's so hard to make money now in the game.Â Dx

That's actually really cool....
Really? I only started doing this because it was getting harder to make money. I may stop charging once I have a stable income again. Right now though, income is really shaky so I need something to keep me afloat.

I had one or two cases where someone actually commissioned a piece of armor or the like from Chachan. One was an actual crafted suit of armor, the other was an RP-aesthetic thing, and in both cases he was given actual gil. I basically took the values from the MB and then gave them a bit of a discount for being a friend. Blush

I was honestly rather surprised and flattered that they wanted the suit of armor just for the "Made by Chachanji Gegenji" bit on it. Blush

If you ICly play a crafter, that might also be a way to make some money. Not a lot, mind, but then you'd also get the benefit of seeing folks walking around in stuff you made. It's a pretty good feeling, gil or no.

Kestrael · **02-10-2015, 02:44 PM**

I will be honest, most of this still sounds like gibberish to me. I don't even know what the "end game" or "end game crafting" is. I like to craft though I am very disappointed that things here cannot really be customized and the things (clothing/armor) that I can craft aren't very pretty.

I too would like to one day, probably 3 rl years from now, own a house. Is there some sort of FFXIV for Dummies that explains everything simply? I found a really nice guide ABOUT crafting but it still doesn't make much sense.

Side note: I am terrified of dungeons and raids, never having done it I just imagine people yelling at me and making me feel bad. My lovely FC members have offered to help teach me but yeah, for a game it is REALLY intimidating.

Kage · **02-10-2015, 02:45 PM**

(02-10-2015, 02:22 PM)A Wrote: Gear from the market board is where a good chunk of my $$$ went.

Though I understand it's to expensive, I was way undergeared for tanking Halatali, I managed to do it without any in the party dying but lost aggro a lot. So I went to the market boards and brought my gear rating from 12 to 21.

Yeaaah unfortunately gearing the tank is almost always the better thing to do if you're taking it into dungeons.

If you aren't going to level the same class again (Aka not another tank or not another DoW or not another DoW), spiritbond what you have (the dungeons around that level will work and usually the material you get will still vendor for more than the gear, though you may be able to put the GC seals to use).

Gegenji · **02-10-2015, 02:54 PM**

(02-10-2015, 02:44 PM)Kestrael Wrote: I will be honest, most of this still sounds like gibberish to me. I don't even know what the "end game" or "end game crafting" is. I like to craft though I am very disappointed that things here cannot really be customized and the things (clothing/armor) that I can craft aren't very pretty.

I too would like to one day, probably 3 rl years from now, own a house. Is there some sort of FFXIV for Dummies that explains everything simply? I found a really nice guide ABOUT crafting but it still doesn't make much sense.

Side note: I am terrified of dungeons and raids, never having done it I just imagine people yelling at me and making me feel bad. My lovely FC members have offered to help teach me but yeah, for a game it is REALLY intimidating.

Endgame, in regards to crafting, is the stuff you can start to make once you hit 50. Preferably in ALL the crafting classes. There's items of increased difficulty that you can start to make that require a minimum amount of the crafting stats, and the cross-class skills from several of the other crafting classes is more or less required.

Unfortunately, this often includes some of the more vanity-oriented items like swimsuits and the like, which is why they often tend to be so pricey on the market. All character customization from a visual sense comes solely from mixing and matching gear (which oftentimes requires levels in some class or another), dying the dye-able gear, and personal cosmetic stuff like haircuts and the like from the aesthetician. it's no All-Points Bulletin or Champions Online customization, but it's okay.

The crafting guides are... oddly set up. They're all about what Guildleves you should take due to the ease of crafting/buying the required items. The ones I use usually give you an option at the bottom of each level spread saying which item you can make for "grinding." Example, "make silk." Thus, I get the mats to make silk, set my character to make 99 of them, and then go off to do laundry or something.

Dungeons and such are another beast. I would definitely take up your FC-mates offer to run a few. Most of them aren't too bad, and having people willing to help and work with you will definitely help boost your confidence at running them. A far cry better than getting some random Pick-up-Group full of folks who expect you to know the dungeon and be able to speedrun it.

And the best thing I can offer? Just ask for help. In your FC or here on the RPC. You'll probably find at least one or two people willing to help you out, if not more.

Kestrael · **02-10-2015, 03:03 PM**

(02-10-2015, 02:54 PM)Gegenji Wrote:
(02-10-2015, 02:44 PM)Kestrael Wrote: I will be honest, most of this still sounds like gibberish to me. I don't even know what the "end game" or "end game crafting" is. I like to craft though I am very disappointed that things here cannot really be customized and the things (clothing/armor) that I can craft aren't very pretty.

I too would like to one day, probably 3 rl years from now, own a house. Is there some sort of FFXIV for Dummies that explains everything simply? I found a really nice guide ABOUT crafting but it still doesn't make much sense.

Side note: I am terrified of dungeons and raids, never having done it I just imagine people yelling at me and making me feel bad. My lovely FC members have offered to help teach me but yeah, for a game it is REALLY intimidating.

Endgame, in regards to crafting, is the stuff you can start to make once you hit 50. Preferably in ALL the crafting classes. There's items of increased difficulty that you can start to make that require a minimum amount of the crafting stats, and the cross-class skills from several of the other crafting classes is more or less required.

Unfortunately, this often includes some of the more vanity-oriented items like swimsuits and the like, which is why they often tend to be so pricey on the market. All character customization from a visual sense comes solely from mixing and matching gear (which oftentimes requires levels in some class or another), dying the dye-able gear, and personal cosmetic stuff like haircuts and the like from the aesthetician. it's no All-Points Bulletin or Champions Online customization, but it's okay.

The crafting guides are... oddly set up. They're all about what Guildleves you should take due to the ease of crafting/buying the required items. The ones I use usually give you an option at the bottom of each level spread saying which item you can make for "grinding." Example, "make silk." Thus, I get the mats to make silk, set my character to make 99 of them, and then go off to do laundry or something.

Dungeons and such are another beast. I would definitely take up your FC-mates offer to run a few. Most of them aren't too bad, and having people willing to help and work with you will definitely help boost your confidence at running them. A far cry better than getting some random Pick-up-Group full of folks who expect you to know the dungeon and be able to speedrun it.

And the best thing I can offer? Just ask for help. In your FC or here on the RPC. You'll probably find at least one or two people willing to help you out, if not more.

Thanks for the information!

Kage · **02-10-2015, 03:04 PM**

Certain vanity items absolutely require one person in the chain to have leveled a specific crafter class to 50 because certain items in the craft requires items to be desynthesized. You can only desynthesize stuff once that specific craft is 50 and you have to level your desynthesis level on top of that.

Crafting endgame is a game all in itself.

Ruran · **02-10-2015, 03:05 PM**

Most of my gil is made through spiritbonding. Since you're not 50 yet, buy the 35+ crafting/gathering gear from the vendor NPC in the Observatorium area in Coerthas (Ignore the accessories, unless you can craft them. You can at least buy Wolf Earrings from the NPC in Ul'dah near the marketboard.), get into a spiritbond party at Urth's Fount, kill them mobs, get the moneys.

As long as the gear is 35+, it'll spiritbond in half an hour or less, if the party is pulling consistently.

Once you're high enough to wear the 45+ gear, switch to that for a chance at materia IVs.

Materia prices have been dropping, but you should at least double what you spent. Get a single Command IV or Control IV, and that's 200k~ right there.

Gegenji · **02-10-2015, 03:05 PM**

(02-10-2015, 03:04 PM)Kage Wrote: You can only desynthesize stuff once that specific craft is 50 and you have to level your desynthesis Â level on top of that.

Actually, I believe you unlock desynthesis at level 30, but all the good desynths are at the higher levels. Otherwise you're just going to get the basic mats, crystals, and the occasional low-level demimateria.

Kage · **02-10-2015, 03:10 PM**

(02-10-2015, 03:05 PM)Gegenji Wrote:
(02-10-2015, 03:04 PM)Kage Wrote: You can only desynthesize stuff once that specific craft is 50 and you have to level your desynthesis Â level on top of that.

Actually, I believe you unlock desynthesis at level 30, but all the good desynths are at the higher levels. Otherwise you're just going to get the basic mats, crystals, and the occasional low-level demimateria.

Mmmm I don't know. I had certain leveled crafts that weren't -quite- 50 and they wouldn't let me desynth. Or maybe they were <50. Though I don't think you can desynth items like artisan glasses or the allagan equipment with only a level 30 goldsmith

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