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Gerik · **10-23-2012, 12:39 PM**

Look, I don't know you, Aveline, and after what's been going on recently, I don't care to. But if someone requested nicely for you to take the blog down, then there's no real objective reason to not comply. But because of your apparent inability to take down the blog, thus ending the drama, clearly, you have some other motive as to keeping it up; do you not? If you really cared about there being "anti-drama spray handed out with every pearl," you'd do best to follow your own ideals and delete your blog.

Aveline · **10-23-2012, 12:45 PM**

Ah, unfortunately Eva did not ask very nicely. He said he "didn't expect" me to "comply" with his request, and padded out the post with insults. I'm also not the creator of this thread. If there was truly a wish not to have any drama, Eva could have PMed me here, or IMed me, or emailed me, etc. Instead, he chose to make a public thread on a small community forum he moderates (not the Lodestone, curiously enough), and when he didn't get his way immediately he tried to pin the drama on me. I think I've seen enough here to know that once again, this was not meant to be a civil thread, but one more attempt to harass me. How does the saying go? "Don't feed the trolls?" I think I've given the OP enough food for the day. Smile

Gerik · **10-23-2012, 12:50 PM**

Boy, I don't know. That seems like a pretty legitimate request to me.

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Aveline · **10-23-2012, 12:54 PM**

Gerick that was actually the 2nd request, after Eva made no attempt to contact me privately and instead made a dramatic thread here about it. And, as you can see in that screenshot, I'm happy to comply with Eva's (nice and respectful) request, as soon as he deletes this thread. But unfortunately he would prefer this thread stay up. So I will continue to attribute him in my blog post to saying something nice about me once. Smile

The horror!

Deirdre · **10-23-2012, 01:02 PM**

How many times does someone have to state to remove it for you to do so? Is there an allotted amount of times before you will?

Come on now.

I count once on the Lodestone, her second posted comment viewable in OP.
I count second, after she REPOSTED it because you deleted her comment.
And now a third time here, on the RPC, where you cannot delete her posts.

Gerik · **10-23-2012, 01:05 PM**

Regardless of whether the request was made in private or public, you should have complied at the first reply because of the indication that Eva was displeased at having it posted in your blog. Now, if you'll look at the dates here....

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Eva didn't post this thread until YESTERDAY after numerous attempts to try to get you to take the blog down, whereas you posted this blog on the 19th, and Eva posted that she didn't like having you use her namesake on a quote.

Eva · **10-23-2012, 01:23 PM**

From xkcd, for relevence (because I created a "dramatic thread"):

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She's already stated that she's going to stand her ground and not remove it despite my requests. She can keep it up and she can keep trying to convince everyone that her reasons for posting it in the first place are fact. I believe otherwise. I really don't have anything further to contribute to this thread so I'm going to get back to work now. Both blog/thread will stand and life may finally go on now.

Again, sorry for inconveniencing everyone~ Looking forward to RP over the next week-and-a-half!! :cheer:

Also OP of this thread is a 'she', not at 'he'. At least, the last time I checked. Laugh

NKato · **10-23-2012, 01:25 PM**

My take on this?

Both sides need to chill out. I don't care who's at fault right now.

Both of you move forward, and treat each other with respect. If I see any more of this drama - or for that matter, any drama rooted in issues from FFXIV 1.0 - in A Realm Reborn, I'm reporting any parties involved in said drama to Square-Enix.

*walks back into his house and slams the door shut*

Deirdre · **10-23-2012, 01:29 PM**

FINAL FANTASYÃ‚Â® XIV User Agreement
Last Updated: 8/16/2011

10.8 User Disputes. You shall be solely responsible for resolving any and all disputes that may arise between you and other Users in connection with the Game, and for paying any and all expenses incurred by you in connection with resolving such dispute. SQUARE ENIX shall not be responsible for mediating or resolving any such disputes and shall have no liability to you or to any third party for any costs, fees, expenses, damages or other losses incurred in connection with or as a result of any such disputes.

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Just sayin'.

NKato · **10-23-2012, 01:33 PM**

Deirdre Wrote:FINAL FANTASYÃ‚Â® XIV User Agreement
Last Updated: 8/16/2011

10.8 User Disputes. You shall be solely responsible for resolving any and all disputes that may arise between you and other Users in connection with the Game, and for paying any and all expenses incurred by you in connection with resolving such dispute. SQUARE ENIX shall not be responsible for mediating or resolving any such disputes and shall have no liability to you or to any third party for any costs, fees, expenses, damages or other losses incurred in connection with or as a result of any such disputes.

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Just sayin'.

*sits with a cup of freshly brewed coffee in front of him* Yeah, thanks for pointing that out. Still, I've seen Square-Enix clamp down on harassment and misbehavior in Final Fantasy XIV and XI in the past. I'm just saying that if a problem gets bad enough, Square could get involved.

Besides, you seem to have missed the point of my statement...oh well, I'm not gonna bother spelling it out right now, because I've got math class in an hour. Waking up in the morning and seeing that this issue is still alive, doesn't exactly make me a happy cat.

Edit: It also seems that the User Disputes section is related to commodities and accounts, not community issues.

Deirdre · **10-23-2012, 01:39 PM**

This isn't a 'huge problem', it's become like this due to the simple refusal of a request that in my opinion, couldn't be more basic or easily worded. Square-Enix is not going to care, in fact Eva has more of a claim in that regard, as if someone requests something on the Lodestone to be taken down because it has their name in it, they are in the right no matter what is said, because it's their name.
Square-Enix will have no control of a third party website, such as the RPC.

Anyways;

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NKato · **10-23-2012, 01:44 PM**

I'm of the mind that people shouldn't let spoken or written things get to them, even if taken out of context.

Make a takedown request if you have to, but don't make hay over it if they refuse. Just move past it, and don't let it become a monkey on your back.

Eva · **10-23-2012, 01:51 PM**

I don't think anyone's really happy about it. Since the original stated purpose of this thread was for my concerns to be heard, and since they have been I'm going to go ahead and lock it now. Nothing good is stemming from it at this point and it's getting off-topic.

I realize as a moderator I am biased in this decision, so if Kylin or one of the other more impartial moderators feels it should be unlocked, by all means please feel free to do so.

Our intentions were good, but it seems like she's so attached to something I said last year that she needs to keep my name there.

Oh well. I suppose maybe I should be flattered she's fighting so hard to keep my name there~ Wink

Just wanted to be heard.

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