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Hyrist · **04-17-2015, 01:02 PM**

... anyone else tempted to post "I'm on a Boat!" You Tube video for laughs?

Anyways, as far as the RP implications, it does not do anyone good to over-think it. People will often come up with their own reasoning, and some of them will end up being similar.

This is not a bad thing. A common back-story does not make for a common character. And common characters in and of themselves aren't bad if they're interesting, and they will be interesting or not based solely on the execution of the players involved.

There can be Au Ra, for example, who tried to eek out a living in Dravanian Lands - and are therefore not forced to leave 'their land'.Â

The great thing about an expansion is that there's more landscape to work from.

Warren Castille · **04-17-2015, 01:03 PM**

(04-17-2015, 12:53 PM)Wymsical Wrote: I'm only slightly exaggerating. Some of my acquaintances gave me a lot of crap for coming back to FFXIV specifically for Au Ra (and astrologians.) I played a Miqo'te before and even now we've had people saying some very harsh things about the Au Ra females that have implications for anyone who want to play them. I know it can come off as childish sniping but it's a long-time frustration over my entire MMO participation. If you're playing a 'cute' or 'pretty' race, there's always a significant portion of the roleplayer population that's rather dismissive or condescending toward you.

There's plenty of it in this very forum. But I really don't want to be combative. I suppose I'm just a little bitter. I do apologize.Â

S'cool. I'm used to being the point of contention, so I respond under assumption most of the time. Sometimes that backfires.

It's not really anyone's fault, though. As has been referenced, the name of the game with Auri is going to be "immigration." We know there's a lot of people wanting to play the new race, and it's going to be kind of daunting for, say, the Quicksand to go from Original Five Races to suddenly (hypothetically) 40% Auri the next night. It's not that I don't expect people to have good backstories, but it's still going to be a bit tiring to be introduced to yet another unique-but-similar concept. It's pre-judgmental, but it happened a lot with the lore-stated-player-contested miqo'te population. Do a shot every time someone is 1) the last of their tribe or 2) a Nunh. Congratulations, you are now dead.

I say this as someone RPing intimately with people using that EXACT CONCEPT, and as someone married to one of those dastardly miqo'te dragoons. It's not a conventional set-up, and the story works for me, so... Isn't that the important part?

I've said it in another person's thread asking for help getting a foot in the community. Perfectly nice roleplayer, very kind and very enthused. The challenge was that they were yet one more quiet but shy miqo'te male hanging out in a populated place. That, sadly, isn't enough to warrant recognition. So you need to stand out. And this is complicated by the fact that we're about to have an influx of same-race-different-background folks that will all have to stand out from one another at the same exact time. I don't envy anyone changing on the first day.

If anyone wants to be mad about it, you've got your choice of targets: Everyone else playing the same race, everyone not accepting them, yourself for buying the hype, and SE for railroading the background.

Wymsical · **04-17-2015, 01:04 PM**

(04-17-2015, 01:02 PM)Clover Wrote:
(04-17-2015, 12:57 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote: How were they "forced"? Couldn't they have simply decided to leave. Nomadic. They travel. There's no lore to break or bend or twist here.

Sorry, I mean as a player. I am forced to make my Au Ra leave for whatever reason. The reason itself isn't important.

Nomad works for my purposes but it'd be very neat if we could play Au Ra as natives in a world we're currently exploring like Dravania.

**Unnamed Mercenary** · **04-17-2015, 01:08 PM**

(04-17-2015, 01:02 PM)Clover Wrote:
(04-17-2015, 12:57 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote: How were they "forced"? Couldn't they have simply decided to leave. Nomadic. They travel. There's no lore to break or bend or twist here.

Sorry, I mean as a player. I am forced to make my Au Ra leave for whatever reason. The reason itself isn't important.

But isn't that the whole point of being an adventurer? Without leaving, the character would not exist within the playable portions of the game. I would think the reason for leaving would be a big part of the backstory or ongoing development of the character.

Why did they leave? Was it because of something? Was it for someone? Did they just want to venture out? Maybe something happened to their home? Etc.

I can't wrap my head around being conflicted that an adventurer adventures.

(04-17-2015, 01:04 PM)Wymsical Wrote:
(04-17-2015, 01:02 PM)Clover Wrote:
(04-17-2015, 12:57 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote: How were they "forced"? Couldn't they have simply decided to leave. Nomadic. They travel. There's no lore to break or bend or twist here.

Sorry, I mean as a player. I am forced to make my Au Ra leave for whatever reason. The reason itself isn't important.

Nomad works for my purposes but it'd be very neat if we could play Au Ra as natives in a world we're currently exploring like Dravania.

Maybe there are? They're nomads, after all. It's not impossible to imagine they might have travelled over and just never left.

But also, Domans were mentioned before Ishgard mentioned its dragon problem being so bad it wanted help. I'd like to think that we would have gotten more hints about Au Ra in Dravania if they were native. ...we do get two new beast tribes though!

Gegenji · **04-17-2015, 01:10 PM**

Everyone should keep in mind that this is just an inkling of things to come. For all we know, there's a couple Xaela tribes that have been hanging about Abalanthia's Spine fighting Warriors and the other Xaela clans for cycles now, but were mostly ignored because it's happening "way over there." Maybe some of them HAVE migrated to the floating islands of Heavensward, fighting over a hunk of floating rock to claim it as their own.

We don't have any lore yet dictating why there can't already be a couple tribes in Eorzea that are just in some out-of-the-way area people haven't been to yet.

I like to think that it's all just to help refining some ideas or perhaps inspire new ones to play with as the release date draws closer. Don't give up on your concepts just yet, or feel like you have to pigeonhole yourself into one background due to a few offered tidbits - there's probably still going to be a way to make it work! ... Even if it's a half-Magitek Xaela made by Garleans to deal with the Au Ra tribes that escaped the razing.

Clover · **04-17-2015, 01:11 PM**

(04-17-2015, 01:08 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote:
(04-17-2015, 01:02 PM)Clover Wrote: Sorry, I mean as a player. I am forced to make my Au Ra leave for whatever reason. The reason itself isn't important.

But isn't that the whole point of being an adventurer? Without leaving, the character would not exist within the playable portions of the game. I would think the reason for leaving would be a big part of the backstory or ongoing development of the character.

Why did they leave? Was it because of something? Was it for someone? Did they just want to venture out? Maybe something happened to their home? Etc.

I can't wrap my head around being conflicted that an adventurer adventures.

Being an adventurer is a personal choice, not the only choice. My other characters aren't adventurers, they were born in Eorzea and they have their home there. Having choices is always a good thing, I think.
By saying that everyone must be an adventurer, you're removing any other possibility @x@;

Warren Castille · **04-17-2015, 01:11 PM**

(04-17-2015, 01:08 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote: I can't wrap my head around being conflicted that an adventurer adventures.

This part I actually follow.

Right now, you could play seemingly anyone from anywhere: We've got outland adventurers sharing with Ishgardian-raised elezen next to displaced Ala Mhigans next to Ul'dahn natives next to Shoud-dwelling forest folks.

Auri only have the first option. They're new, so they aren't established in Eorzea. Their homeland is "elsewhere" so they all have to move to Eorzea. They can't be natives like everyone else can be.

...that said, I'm not sure how anyone else expected anything but. For all we know, we WILL find Auri settlements in Dravania and all of this will be for nothing.

K'nahli · **04-17-2015, 01:13 PM**

(04-17-2015, 01:03 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: and it's going to be kind of daunting for, say, the Quicksand to go from Original Five Races to suddenly (hypothetically) 40% Auri the next night. It's not that I don't expect people to have good backstories, but it's still going to be a bit tiring to be introduced to yet another unique-but-similar concept. It's pre-judgmental, but it happened a lot with....

B.....Wha.....th-this is exactly what I was trying to explain was my view earlier!!!!

Erik Mynhier · **04-17-2015, 01:15 PM**

So the Raen.... as per lore only rarely leave their valley.... so what like a million wandering around the first day? And here I thought everyone was death-gripped on the lore.

I guess we'll see if people follow the lore on this one or if it'll be like everything else where they are selective with the lore. Hard on others, but lax with themselves.

Warren Castille · **04-17-2015, 01:16 PM**

(04-17-2015, 01:15 PM)Erik Mynhier Wrote: I guess we'll see if people follow the lore on this one or if it'll be like everything else where they are selective with the lore. Hard on others, but lax with themselves.

All roleplayers are hypocrites deep down. It's okay when we do it.

Wymsical · **04-17-2015, 01:19 PM**

(04-17-2015, 01:15 PM)Erik Mynhier Wrote: So the Raen.... as per lore only rarely leave their valley.... so what like a million wandering around the first day? And here I thought everyone was death-gripped on the lore.

I guess we'll see if people follow the lore on this one or if it'll be like everything else where they are selective with the lore. Hard on others, but lax with themselves.

Well to be fair, we know that Raen also associate closely with the Domans and... uh, they're not doing so hot right now.Â

Gegenji · **04-17-2015, 01:20 PM**

(04-17-2015, 01:19 PM)Wymsical Wrote:
(04-17-2015, 01:15 PM)Erik Mynhier Wrote: So the Raen.... as per lore only rarely leave their valley.... so what like a million wandering around the first day? And here I thought everyone was death-gripped on the lore.

I guess we'll see if people follow the lore on this one or if it'll be like everything else where they are selective with the lore. Hard on others, but lax with themselves.
[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]Well to be fair, we know that Raen also associate closely with the Domans and... uh, they're not doing so hot right now.Â [/color]

They're doing plenty hot. You could say Doma's really on fire right now.

Hyrist · **04-17-2015, 01:22 PM**

I don't think the Au Ra will explode to Miqo'te proportions, though there will likely be an initial surge.

These don't have to be explained ICly. They're going to be players that are going to want some OOC time to settle their characters in and figure out their angle anyways. Those that do RP them, well, an Adventurer Guild is going to attract a lot of people.

As far as the Raen, as I said before, we have no idea what 'rare' means for their race.

There is a lot of high tension for something that, inside a year, will become little more than a footnote in RP.

Clover · **04-17-2015, 01:24 PM**

(04-17-2015, 01:15 PM)Erik Mynhier Wrote: So the Raen.... as per lore only rarely leave their valley.... so what like a million wandering around the first day? And here I thought everyone was death-gripped on the lore.

Yugiri had to leave Doma though. I assumed she wasn't the only Au Ra (Raen) who did.

Kyrrae L'minia · **04-17-2015, 01:24 PM**

The only thing I would caution about someone wanting to play 'native' Au Ra is that it may come back around to bite you in the ass. The text is quite clear that as it says, "the Xaela are free spirits who roam the *vast western steppe*" Not, they're nomads that travel all over the world, but rather specifies a specific place.

I'm not telling anyone they can't rp a Xaela tribe that moved to Eorzea in ancient times past, but I'm warning you that it's highly unlikely that the lore will ever support you in that.

All in all though, whatever story you're using for your Au Ra, make it well thought out! Even if your story is similar to someone else, as long as you carefully crafted it yourself, why does it matter? Distinct =/= best. That's like me saying that my existence in real life is boring because I'm a white male from the United States. Sure, there are a lot of people like me, with similar backgrounds to me, but that doesn't make my story any less unique. Smile

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