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Kage · **04-21-2015, 08:27 AM**

I'm not?

If they unlocked FCOB, why -not- unlock poetics?

Warren Castille · **04-21-2015, 08:27 AM**

Conversely, if they unlocked FCOB, why bother to unlock poetics?

Enteris · **04-21-2015, 08:32 AM**

Honestly I don't see what the big deal is either way. Unless SE pulls a 180 and makes this game even remotely challenging outside of coil, i would contend that AF gear and your plain old relic will be enough to get you by in the expansion. All of which will likely be quickly replaced by quest rewards and dungeon drops.

Kage · **04-21-2015, 08:32 AM**

For the other ~50%+ who do not meet FCOB requirements or cannot farm it in the first place?

There's no reason for them to keep their "welfare" equipment locked when the "harder" content isn't.

Edit: I don't really care either way, but the Poetics cap sometimes actually makes me wish I could remove automatic subscription. So.

Gegenji · **04-21-2015, 08:35 AM**

Gogon has all combat classes but NIN at 50. He has the SCH Zodiac, a Soldiery Axe, a Dragoon Zenith relic, and everything else is equipped from weapons dropped by the various Primals.

I'm just happy enough that they're all above i100-ish (even if the Titan bow REALLY CLASHES with the rest of the look), so I can "try" using them if they're needed for something. I really don't think I could or would want to try max-gearing out all of them. I just can't see myself using any other job than SCH enough to warrant it.

... Especially with Heavensward on the horizon. Then again, I don't really raid or anything, and I don't even bother trying to cap my poetics on any of my characters these days. So, you mileage may vary.

Kage · **04-21-2015, 08:41 AM**

To be honest I'm tickled fuzzy by the fact that there is only ONE NERF to FCOB.

Quote:The Shadow of Meracydia will no longer appear when Bahamut casts Gigaflare a second time in the Final Coil of Bahamut â€“ Turn 4.

FUCK PUSHING DPS GO GO GO

For those unable to do divebombs and kill a shadow.

Warren Castille · **04-21-2015, 08:41 AM**

I'd written up a whole post here, but I erased it. I'll just back out while repeating "I don't understand."

allgivenover · **04-21-2015, 08:44 AM**

Surprised why has to even be answered.
Heavensward is two months away, sure Final Coil is unlocked, but the drops are random and well... most people can't even clear the fights anyway, so it might as well not exist for them. If they unlocked poetics most players would finish getting their one or two mains to i130 then get bored and quit. They want that extra month of subs.

They are here to make money after all.

Kage · **04-21-2015, 08:47 AM**

I'm already considering quitting until June so... that doesn't help me ;p

Poetics being capped bores me the fuck out.

Well, I would. If i could.

Since I put in game time, it wouldn't matter.

allgivenover · **04-21-2015, 08:51 AM**

So quit? I've been best in slot for a while on the only job I care to gear up, the only reason I haven't cancelled until then is because I'm making money for Heavensward.

MMO interest is cyclical, it's fine to leave and return. Though in this case it really comes off as you being butthurt and wanting everyone here to know you're quitting due to poetics cap not being removed right now rather than your interest actually having diminished.

Don't think anyone cares either way.

Kage · **04-21-2015, 08:54 AM**

I'm only saying it because it's a differing opinion to the "if poetics was uncapped people would quit until Heavensward." I'm not allowed to say that when people bring it up?

Waaah waaah waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

No one actually -cares- that hard about poetics being unlocked, not even the people who were hoping it was. The game keeps people in for different reasons.

Edit: Fact is, for me: I can be completely lackadaisical about how I run the content with the poetics capped. For others, like you, you can give no fucks. That's fine. So why do you care commenting on it when it doesn't affect you?

allgivenover · **04-21-2015, 08:59 AM**

If poetics were uncapped some unknown portion of people would quit until Heavensward. They want to keep that portion until then.

I imagine that portion doesn't really come to this site or has an interest in roleplay.

Kage · **04-21-2015, 09:04 AM**

There's also a fair portion of people, not just the old "log in once a week to raid" people, who I know would also quit just because they finished farming FCOB in <2 weeks.

It's just still a number of people who stop playing the game for X reasons. You are right, most likely -more people- would quit because of poetics unlocked. Or those people may not even care, considering there are many who don't care to cap poetics even now.

I know some people who stopped playing in 2.1 or 2.2 and only just now started playing or were thinking of waiting until the expansion until they found out you need to finish through 2.55 to get the most out of 3.0

allgivenover · **04-21-2015, 09:09 AM**

(04-21-2015, 09:04 AM)Kage Wrote: There's also a fair portion of people, not just the old "log in once a week to raid" people, who I know would also quit just because they finished farming FCOB in <2 weeks.

Like half my static. =/

Of course, after I helped them get several of their scrub friends a clear, but as soon as I mention getting my own competent friends who don't have a good group a clear they're quitting till Heavensward.

Totallynotangryaboutthat.

Kage · **04-21-2015, 09:19 AM**

I'm sorry /pat
(Truly, most of my friends spend less time because they've burnt out a bit farming coil and not even breeding racing chocobos can make them feel better.)

Actually, I do have a question since FCOB is now DF.

.... what happens to the T11 trash and adds?
I've -always- come in on caster... and I have always had good group composition when I run.
.... what happens if you have all melee or all caster? iirc the other path/node/orb is magic resistant or so. How long are those parts now XD

@_@

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