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Warren Castille · **09-30-2015, 07:51 AM**

(09-30-2015, 06:47 AM)Eses Fafa Wrote: While I have quite a degree of respect for people who play their characters as these 'normals' as they remind others that Eorzea is not full of superheroes, I'm not one of those people and neither was this fellow most likely. For all we know, he could very well be capable of mauling a fully-armoured roegadyn all Beowulf style.

This actually leads me to wonder why we haven't had super villains yet. If the level of power is really so drastic when jumping from "normal" Eorzeans to "special" Eorzeans, are we really to believe that no one has ever gone full Doctor Doom yet? The fall of Ala Mhigo displaced huge swaths of desperate, angry people. Not a one of them came into their gifts and decided to take it out on Ul'dah? Or the Empire? If there really are people out there capable of decimating platoons how come we don't have record of these terrifying supermen laying waste to the population? There's not a chance that the Monetarists would be content just sitting around waiting for someone they've financially ruined to develop mega-strength and come hunting them.

Makes me curious if we're all getting it "wrong" and the overall level of power is just a game mechanic to make the WoL looks awesome.

Hammersmith · **09-30-2015, 08:22 AM**

(09-30-2015, 07:51 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(09-30-2015, 06:47 AM)Eses Fafa Wrote: While I have quite a degree of respect for people who play their characters as these 'normals' as they remind others that Eorzea is not full of superheroes, I'm not one of those people and neither was this fellow most likely. For all we know, he could very well be capable of mauling a fully-armoured roegadyn all Beowulf style.

This actually leads me to wonder why we haven't had super villains yet. If the level of power is really so drastic when jumping from "normal" Eorzeans to "special" Eorzeans, are we really to believe that no one has ever gone full Doctor Doom yet? The fall of Ala Mhigo displaced huge swaths of desperate, angry people. Not a one of them came into their gifts and decided to take it out on Ul'dah? Or the Empire? If there really are people out there capable of decimating platoons how come we don't have record of these terrifying supermen laying waste to the population? There's not a chance that the Monetarists would be content just sitting around waiting for someone they've financially ruined to develop mega-strength and come hunting them.

Makes me curious if we're all getting it "wrong" and the overall level of power is just a game mechanic to make the WoL looks awesome.

We do, kinda. Â A lot of the mythos in FF actually tracks people like that. Â Like the Zodiac Braves. Â Ironeater was a Zodiac and Mythril Heart from the WAR quest, notably, were said to rip the arms off behemoths and destroy formations of 'normie' soldiers. Â

They're out there. Â Part of me more wonders if the shift from "Aw shit, it's THAT motherfucker. Â We should get the hell out before we all die" to "This guy was legendary and Dr. Doomy" is the sort of thing time instills into a telling of something.

As for Dr. Doom? Â Crystal Tower has lots of that sort of thing. Â We don't know MUCH about the Allegan empire, but they had the potential for that sort of thing, and it even -actually happened- in terms of Big Evil Plan Time. (I'm looking at you Dalamud)

Looking at the 6'th age we -just left- you have an empire bringing a literal moon down on a continent, a dude that turned into a pheonix and helped BLOW UP THE MOON, "godly intervention" to save the Twelvesblade, Padjals, The Ultima Fucking Weapon, Cid the Incredible Deus Ex Machina, city states slaying Primals, secret goblin organizations raising God Machines, Ancient Wyrms returning, people becoming literal Gods Among Men and, of course, Our Favorite Ascians Back in the Fray.

There's a LOT of legendary stuff happening. Â There IS A LOT OF POWER floating around in FF.

The question is more "why are we not doing that" Â and the answer is, almost universally "Because blowing the planet up kind of makes the game unplayable for other people".

RPers can't control all other RPers. Â We will never have a full sized server-wide plot or Dr. Doom or Darkseid, or the like, and we as RPers will never have a unified pantheon of acknowledged heroes. Â Because no one is telling out story for us, we're doing it ourselves, with others, but ultimately self guided.

Which means restraint and compromise. Â Which means less Dr. Doom and more street-level personal stuff.

Eses Fafa · **09-30-2015, 10:58 AM**

(09-30-2015, 07:51 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(09-30-2015, 06:47 AM)Eses Fafa Wrote: While I have quite a degree of respect for people who play their characters as these 'normals' as they remind others that Eorzea is not full of superheroes, I'm not one of those people and neither was this fellow most likely. For all we know, he could very well be capable of mauling a fully-armoured roegadyn all Beowulf style.

This actually leads me to wonder why we haven't had super villains yet. If the level of power is really so drastic when jumping from "normal" Eorzeans to "special" Eorzeans, are we really to believe that no one has ever gone full Doctor Doom yet? The fall of Ala Mhigo displaced huge swaths of desperate, angry people. Not a one of them came into their gifts and decided to take it out on Ul'dah? Or the Empire? If there really are people out there capable of decimating platoons how come we don't have record of these terrifying supermen laying waste to the population? There's not a chance that the Monetarists would be content just sitting around waiting for someone they've financially ruined to develop mega-strength and come hunting them.

Makes me curious if we're all getting it "wrong" and the overall level of power is just a game mechanic to make the WoL looks awesome.

Well it's sorta iffy. Think of it like this:

The Warrior of Light is one of the single most powerful characters in the game because they have friends..lots of friends. This character can vary from any job, could be the most powerful of said job, and has been known to take down major villains such as Xande. This could actually take up to 24 people to take them down, and the WoL never did this alone. When the WoL IS alone, they can usually only take on about three or four enemies at most with seemingly regular capabilities. This is from an IC and OOC perspective.

A Dragoon, someone with the physical capabilities of killing dragons, defying gravity and tapping into their soul stone can be brought down by a handful of Brass Blades, regular folk who are trained among the masses because they're shallow and like money. Let that sink in for a second since the OOC side of the game actually balances out character strength quite a bit.

Throughout the game, when we fight humanoid characters like Gaius, they bail after being brought down a good number by 8 people. Gaius is EXTREMELY powerful due to his gear, decades of training and overall abilities. This stuff is taught to him by the elite of the elite, the hardened backbone of the Garlean Empire, yet he can be brought down by numbers of the weaker masses just like the WoL.

Beings such as Ultima Weapon, which are capable of destroying entire regions had to be combated using literal divine intervention, making one realise just how powerless the WoL is without the Goddess at their back at such crucial moments.

The monetarists have never been beaten because they understand the limits to a person's power. Even the WoL can't beat a whole squadron of soldiers. Someone who can potentially flatten Gods can be beaten by regular men, just like Titan was by a handful of mercenaries upon his first arrival, before the WoL.

This is why we don't have super powerful heroes/villains, because 'specials' only exceed normals by a set amount, and a King is only as powerful as the army backing him. Say this gets serious. Say shizzle really goes down with this bouncer and this ne'er-do-well. Say this troublemaker DOES happen to be a soul stone user who can shatter the earth beneath his feet. One or two more bouncers could very well do him in. He's not the WoL, he's most definitely not as powerful since he couldn't take half the stuff the WoL receives in an IC environment (lord knows I wouldn't wanna get buttslammed by Titan..).

'Specials' have a limit just like 'normals' do, but a smart 'normal' trumps an arrogant 'special' anyday.

Aaron · **09-30-2015, 11:28 AM**

(09-30-2015, 07:51 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(09-30-2015, 06:47 AM)Eses Fafa Wrote: While I have quite a degree of respect for people who play their characters as these 'normals' as they remind others that Eorzea is not full of superheroes, I'm not one of those people and neither was this fellow most likely. For all we know, he could very well be capable of mauling a fully-armoured roegadyn all Beowulf style.

This actually leads me to wonder why we haven't had super villains yet. If the level of power is really so drastic when jumping from "normal" Eorzeans to "special" Eorzeans, are we really to believe that no one has ever gone full Doctor Doom yet? The fall of Ala Mhigo displaced huge swaths of desperate, angry people. Not a one of them came into their gifts and decided to take it out on Ul'dah? Or the Empire? If there really are people out there capable of decimating platoons how come we don't have record of these terrifying supermen laying waste to the population? There's not a chance that the Monetarists would be content just sitting around waiting for someone they've financially ruined to develop mega-strength and come hunting them.

Makes me curious if we're all getting it "wrong" and the overall level of power is just a game mechanic to make the WoL looks awesome.

I think if it gets to that point just swallow your pride and roll for it.

Warren Castille · **09-30-2015, 03:40 PM**

(09-30-2015, 08:22 AM)Hammersmith Wrote: Looking at the 6'th age we -just left- you have an empire bringing a literal moon down on a continent, a dude that turned into a pheonix and helped BLOW UP THE MOON, "godly intervention" to save the Twelvesblade, Padjals, The Ultima Fucking Weapon, Cid the Incredible Deus Ex Machina, city states slaying Primals, secret goblin organizations raising God Machines, Ancient Wyrms returning, people becoming literal Gods Among Men and, of course, Our Favorite Ascians Back in the Fray.

This is mostly my point, though: Look at what those people wielding power have done. With the exception of Cid (who ain't done jack when it comes to anything power-y, dude just invents awesome stuff) everyone else you named is a bad guy. The sorts of people that the normie army would rally against to try and kill. The sort of people that go down as horrible villains. And this is before we get age and myth turning this stuff into Lu Bu tier storytelling.

If it was as common as we treat it that Random Adventurer #73 could just suddenly develop the ability to treat NPCs like, well, NPCS, then there'd be a crisis on our hands. It could make a neat story; People without power will fear those who do, especially once Superpowers come onto the scene. To invoke the size discrepancy stuff: If you're a tiny hyur woman who's suddenly suplexing Demon Train, the people around you are going to notice, and they are going to be terrified.

/think think think

Hammersmith · **09-30-2015, 04:00 PM**

(09-30-2015, 03:40 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(09-30-2015, 08:22 AM)Hammersmith Wrote: Looking at the 6'th age we -just left- you have an empire bringing a literal moon down on a continent, a dude that turned into a pheonix and helped BLOW UP THE MOON, "godly intervention" to save the Twelvesblade, Padjals, The Ultima Fucking Weapon, Cid the Incredible Deus Ex Machina, Â city states slaying Primals, secret goblin organizations raising God Machines, Ancient Wyrms returning, people becoming literal Gods Among Men and, of course, Our Favorite Ascians Back in the Fray.

This is mostly my point, though: Look at what those people wielding power have done. With the exception of Cid (who ain't done jack when it comes to anything power-y, dude just invents awesome stuff) everyone else you named is a bad guy. The sorts of people that the normie army would rally against to try and kill. The sort of people that go down as horrible villains. And this is before we get age and myth turning this stuff into Lu Bu tier storytelling.

If it was as common as we treat it that Random Adventurer #73 could just suddenly develop the ability to treat NPCs like, well, NPCS, then there'd be a crisis on our hands. It could make a neat story; People without power will fear those who do, especially once Superpowers come onto the scene. To invoke the size discrepancy stuff: If you're a tiny hyur woman who's suddenly suplexing Demon Train, the people around you are going to notice, and they are going to be terrified.

/think think think

They arn't all Bad Guys. Â Lousioux is a noted hero, the Twelvesguard is neigh mythical in becoming some of the Warriors of Light, the Padjals manage the Black Shroud and Gridania's relationship with the elements.

But you are absolutely right.

Common mankind should be scared of shit of this stuff, regardless. Â It's why there's freecompanies, it's why there's Grand Companies and guild.

They separate the chaff out looking for greatness, to some degree (though some idiots just happen into it, looking at you Biggs and Wedge.)

-no longer matters- · **10-01-2015, 02:53 PM**

Also reading through all of this Just remember people

Fearless=/= Brave.

In fact Fear is needed for bravery.

So yes while our characters may have gone toe to toe with massive creatures and monsters, I'd like to think our characters realize there was a bit of luck involved and would still know fear.

And yes the occasional Fearless idiot is fun, but it takes a special RPer to play one and enforce the idiot side of it.

Ilwe'ran · **10-01-2015, 07:04 PM**

This probably already has been said during those 6 pages of long text, the main problem when you're RPing in a non PVP MMO is you cannot actually interact violently with the character in front of yours.
So, even though you would RP a Giant Hulkroe vs a cute Lalafell, it's up to the situation, the people involved and to the tacit rules most of RPer are supposed to know and to follow when it comes to their reaction. Your character would be able to "touch" the other one and to actually be able to throw them away because they are taller and stronger, this situation would not happen that often.
Now nothing can stop someone who wants to cause a problem in the middle of an event. It happened before, it will happen again and it's one of the reason that lead a LOT of people who are organizing some wide size event to have at least one guard ready to stun any idiot who would attempt to make a ruckus. Worse. Those people can simply ignore the guards and just continue to cause some problems. Those one have to be pmed OOC right away and if they don't stop ? Those guys deserve to be /block.

Now about the event, there are some unsaid rules which are logical for some people and clearly not for some others :
- You're allowed to come with your character in the state of mind they are. Your character can be sad, happy, angry, upset, etc. As long as you accept the consequences it might have.
- You're allowed to see an enemy and to be displeased, to growl and the like.
- If you see someone you don't like or your character doesn't get along with. Don't go and RP with them. This would lead to ruckus and you will only cause some problems to those who spent HOURS and DAYS to create that event.
- If REALLY you cannot do otherwise than to be confronted to someone you dislike. There are 3 ways to go : Ignore them, be courteous because you're in public, leave the event to fight or do whatever you want with them. Fighting during an event while it's not part of it is NOT acceptable. Particularly if you RP this as though you and your opponent are alone in a desert island with nobody around.
- Using an event for your own plots is OK, as long as nobody around is aware of what you're doing (aka taking the benefit of the crowd while you're RPing to help the immersion, but RPing in private with the people involved in your plot for example). As soon as you try to divert the event to serve your purpose you have to stop. Right away.
- All this include people who are coming and suddenly decide to attract the attention and to make a ruckus, to not respect the basic rules of courtesy and thus ignore as well the logical "Ew this character is twice my side, wears a heavy armor, a big sword while I'm half naked..... Maybe I should shut up actually."

Let me put it simply :

BE RESPECTFUL. THIS EVENT YOU'RE PARTICIPATING TO ISN'T YOURS. IT'S NOT ABOUT YOUR CHARACTER ONLY AND THEIR STORY. THUS YOU HAVE TO BEND YOUR CHARACTER A LITTLE SO THINGS CAN GO SMOOTHLY. IF YOU DON'T DO SO AND HAVE FUN CAUSING SOME PROBLEMS DURING AN EVENT, SORRY, BUT YOU'RE A BUTT.

kamikrazy · **10-05-2015, 07:20 AM**

It sounds like you were being too standoffish with them and turned yourself into a threat that they wanted to confront for social points with their friends. For that type of situation, it's always a good idea to use the favor approach first.

Don't tell them to stop, don't be forceful, instead make it sound like they are doing you a favor, and if they respond positively, reward them for it and buy the whole table drinks, it will solidify their commitment to help you by calming down, and they'll all have something in common again (the fact that they don't want to give you a hard time)

Example: "Hey guys, it's sounds pretty lively over here. I know what's going on here is really not my place, and I hope I'm not interrupting something...but you see that guy over there? He's my boss, and if you continue to be as loud as you were just a minute ago, he's gonna kill me. Could I ask you for a favor to tone it down a few notches? Thanks, you are really saving my hide here. How about I get you all drinks? My treat."

Caspar · **10-07-2015, 03:45 AM**

(09-30-2015, 03:40 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(09-30-2015, 08:22 AM)Hammersmith Wrote: Looking at the 6'th age we -just left- you have an empire bringing a literal moon down on a continent, a dude that turned into a pheonix and helped BLOW UP THE MOON, "godly intervention" to save the Twelvesblade, Padjals, The Ultima Fucking Weapon, Cid the Incredible Deus Ex Machina, Â city states slaying Primals, secret goblin organizations raising God Machines, Ancient Wyrms returning, people becoming literal Gods Among Men and, of course, Our Favorite Ascians Back in the Fray.

This is mostly my point, though: Look at what those people wielding power have done. With the exception of Cid (who ain't done jack when it comes to anything power-y, dude just invents awesome stuff) everyone else you named is a bad guy. The sorts of people that the normie army would rally against to try and kill. The sort of people that go down as horrible villains. And this is before we get age and myth turning this stuff into Lu Bu tier storytelling.

If it was as common as we treat it that Random Adventurer #73 could just suddenly develop the ability to treat NPCs like, well, NPCS, then there'd be a crisis on our hands. It could make a neat story; People without power will fear those who do, especially once Superpowers come onto the scene. To invoke the size discrepancy stuff: If you're a tiny hyur woman who's suddenly suplexing Demon Train, the people around you are going to notice, and they are going to be terrified.

/think think think

This idea is actually pretty central to my overall rp theme in regards to my ongoing story. Where, becoming skilled and powerful might make you a strong warrior, but it's isolating. Push far enough, and a fighter can become something other than human. A notable NPC in my storyline (maybe even a few) transcended normal reasoning for most people and became an object of abject terror, more like a monster or a concept than an individual. A few NPCs, like Nael, were of course incredibly evil, but the need of their circumstances to become just that impossibly strong is worthy of some pity. In a world in which aether and magitek exists, it's even more possible to separate yourself from others with power.

Kellach Woods · **10-07-2015, 06:33 AM**

(09-30-2015, 07:51 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: Makes me curious if we're all getting it "wrong" and the overall level of power is just a game mechanic to make the WoL looks awesome.

If that's the case, why Raubahn/Ilberd? They could have a regular fight instead of what we got. I don't think Aldis/Leavold even got close to that.

Hell, even the Scions get in on the action of everyone gets a giant powerboost in 2.55.

Then again, it's one of those things that I personally think what makes the WoL, the WoL isn't so much how powerful he is but just how goddamned protected he is. With enough dedication and the right circumstances, anyone can be as powerful as the WoL as most of what the WoL will use in regular fights is class/job training.

They, however, will never reach the level of invincibility that he's shown (unless their name is JOHN CENA but I digress for the sake of a cheap joke). Just the fact that he can't be tempered or drowned helps immensely, but then he goes on overcoming obstacles after obstacles to show just how impossible it is to actually kill him (and even then I'm pretty sure if they did kill him the WoL'd just find a way to come back from the lifestream because reasons).

But yea.

FallenFedora · **10-07-2015, 07:26 AM**

This is something I've encountered across every medium of RP I've seen, and unfortunately, the overused archetypes of 'I'm the coolest, and the strongest' and 'The Spotlight' don't seem to be going anywhere. While I by no means plan to dictate how a person rolls a character, or how to play them, I do expect common courtesy and a regard for choice/consequence ICly... but usually they boil down to an OOC spat in which you're wrong for X number of reasons and why this naked little man overcomes adversity and one shots this hulking monster in full armor....

The only real ways to deal with these situations are to have literal numerical superiority (Enough people either ICly or OOCly expressing that the situation is as such that there is sufficient security present to bar entry, or explain that the person is being disruptive and/or irrealistic if contesting it in such a manner that they begin to circumnavigate every attempt to secure the scene in progress which they insist on intruding on.) Open RP is some of the best I've found, it's where I get a lot of good contacts - but I also understand there are some scenarios that I won't be allowed entry to ICly for fear of actually getting dumped in a river by that hulking Roe with the eyepatch and imposing sword.

Unfortunately these same archetypes fit the same type of person that either troll or feel entitled to their own story at the expense of others. Which is shitty however you look at it. I've lost all the patience for it, unfortunately, over the years spent in the hobby encountering this type of person... I usually just put them on the ol' blacklist once they've identified themselves as disruptive OOCly for the sake of being disruptive or overly entitled to their own designs, without regard for the actions their choices would bring within reason. (I.E. Start a bar fight, by yourself with six bouncers in the room. Sorry. You're probably getting thrown the fuck out, and I don't care how strong you think your dude is unless you've got hell'a good dice rolls.)

But all of this is just me regurgitating what's already been said...

Quote:Â Ilwe'ran
BE RESPECTFUL. THIS EVENT YOU'RE PARTICIPATING TO ISN'T YOURS. IT'S NOT ABOUT YOUR CHARACTER ONLY AND THEIR STORY. THUS YOU HAVE TO BEND YOUR CHARACTER A LITTLE SO THINGS CAN GO SMOOTHLY. IF YOU DON'T DO SO AND HAVE FUN CAUSING SOME PROBLEMS DURING AN EVENT, SORRY, BUT YOU'RE A BUTT.

Berrod Armstrong · **10-07-2015, 07:48 AM**

Discretion, communication, and compromise.

As roleplayers some of us may at times forget that we are playing this game with several other real people who have spent time developing their own characters to play and enjoy. We may even forget, or fail to acknowledge that going out there does not mean that everyone will cater to our character's story, power levels or personality -- and this goes for both the high and low ends of the power spectrum. The people who try to force ridiculous levels of average dirt joeÂ in areas where they'd amount to no more than a street walking peasant are JUST as guilty as super multiclass world class seen-everything ultima-belchers. Expecting people to accept an overpowered character is in the same boat as expecting everyone to play an underpowered one.Â

What must happen is simple: a player must think outside of their own sphere, and assess the situation, the setting and the other live players/characters in the environment. From there, no matter what they've written their character to be, a prudent roleplayer can present their character in a manner that fits the situation.Â

For example; I'm sure Berrod can take on a big ol' Roe bouncing at a party. Hell, I'd probably LOVE to see that and play that out. However, I understand as a player that an event is going on, and that bouncer has been placed there to provide flavor and a sense of in-character security. Likely, I won't try anything and just make it so that my character toes the line -- hell, or at least throws a couple words for the bouncer and doesn't do anything more than that. If I WANT to have Berrod stir some trouble -- communication comes in. I whisper one of the organizers. I whisper the player of the bouncer. I try to ensure that the organizers and the bouncer are in communication with one another. If I get the go ahead to cause a little ruckus that's where compromise comes in. I don't want to ruin the event. I see what the organizers want to do. I know what the bouncer is there for. So I stir a bit of trouble in a manner where my character does not breach the security of the event. Sure there was a scrum or something, but in the end the event stays intact and the participants have something extra to talk about. It's a character memory that goes forward. It's something players talk about and have fun with. That's how roleplay goes. It's not just about me and my character and his awesomeness or fearlessness. Whether he's fearless or not, -I- as a player realize that the event requires a certain level of order, and that there must be boundaries and limits regarding interruptions and the like.

All this business and talk about power levels, who can do what in the story, what we see in the game world, it'll end up going in circles of overthinking. It doesn't matter if the character just swings a sword in some chainmail or can slice through steel with an aetherically powered blade. What matters is that the player behind the character has the discretion to know when these abilities and traits are best applied to a scene, and when they are best put away in favor of an approach that accommodates as many collaborators as possible. Most of everything else is just us being bratty snobby roleplayers who secretly and sometimes not-so-secretly think everyone should do things our way. I'm guilty of it too!

No Longer Exists · **10-07-2015, 09:54 AM**

*Snooze bubble pops*

So, I take it no one has ever seen a wuxia film before or watched an action adventure movie? The grandiose behaviors discussed in the previous pages are all things taken directly from the "Action Hero Playbook" right down to staring death (or at least a vicious walloping) in the face while clad in little but your knickers and a very stylish hat.....

I should probably get dressed. Anywho!

While I have no desire to stand up for the rights of Joe McHugeMuscles, savior of the dumbkoft nebula or Danny Hotpants, able to stand up to burly battlers in plate mail at all your social functions; I am inclined to point everyone's attention to Berrod's post (and to a lesser extent, anyone else who said the same thing) specifically in respect to that we're all telling stories even when we're in someone else's story. Without character perspectives, it'd just be one person writing fanfiction to themselves in an empty wasteland of an MMO. Which is to say: Choose your own adventure. That's not what MMO RP is. So yes, that person was being a prat and not respecting the event coordinator's RP. So was the OP in disregarding that player's right to RP the way they want to RP when they want to RP because REASONS (I still don't fully understand the "right to RP" platform, frankly. But that's not the point).

While I disagree with Berrod's point of using discretion diametrically opposed to a character's personality, I do believe that one should think before one acts and prepare for a storm of stinky brown stuff if whizzing in the punch bowl wins the internal debate of proper social etiquette. However, if my character decided to do that.....he would do it. He probably wouldn't care what anyone thought of it IC or how those characters felt about it IC. OOC, It wouldn't change my outlook on anyone, myself included, save to maybe consider seeking treatment for my disassociative disorder. Maybe.

There's a subconscious need in us to exert control over things that we know we cannot, which is where these problems stem from. Let it go. LET IT GO. CAN'T HOLD IT BACK ANYMOOOOOOO-AGHK Koff Wheeze....

My apologies. Still, relax. It's only a game.

- Hatter

Hammersmith · **10-07-2015, 10:33 AM**

(10-07-2015, 09:54 AM)Black Hat Wrote:
*Snooze bubble pops*

So, I take it no one has ever seen a wuxia film before or watched an action adventure movie? The grandiose behaviors discussed in the previous pages are all things taken directly from the "Action Hero Playbook" right down to staring death (or at least a vicious walloping) in the face while clad in little but your knickers and a very stylish hat.....

I should probably get dressed. Anywho!

While I have no desire to stand up for the rights of Joe McHugeMuscles, savior of the dumbkoft nebula or Danny Hotpants, able to stand up to burly battlers in plate mail at all your social functions; I am inclined to point everyone's attention to Berrod's post (and to a lesser extent, anyone else who said the same thing) specifically in respect to that we're all telling stories even when we're in someone else's story. Without character perspectives, it'd just be one person writing fanfiction to themselves in an empty wasteland of an MMO. Which is to say: Choose your own adventure. That's not what MMO RP is. So yes, that person was being a prat and not respecting the event coordinator's RP. So was the OP in disregarding that player's right to RP the way they want to RP when they want to RP because REASONS (I still don't fully understand the "right to RP" platform, frankly. But that's not the point).

While I disagree with Berrod's point of using discretion diametrically opposed to a character's personality, I do believe that one should think before one acts and prepare for a storm of stinky brown stuff if whizzing in the punch bowl wins the internal debate of proper social etiquette. However, if my character decided to do that.....he would do it. He probably wouldn't care what anyone thought of it IC or how those characters felt about it IC. OOC, It wouldn't change my outlook on anyone, myself included, save to maybe consider seeking treatment for my disassociative disorder. Maybe.

There's a subconscious need in us to exert control over things that we know we cannot, which is where these problems stem from. Let it go. LET IT GO. CAN'T HOLD IT BACK ANYMOOOOOOO-AGHK Koff Wheeze....

My apologies. Still, relax. It's only a game.

- Hatter

This is not an excuse to be something stupid or abuse in RP. Â

No char can make choices. Â No char exists in a vacuum as an autonomous agent.

"My char did it you can't judge me for the actions sorry I shit in your punchbowl" is not a reason. Â It's an excuse for shitty action you have complete control over avoiding, and it should be avoided.

Don't be That Guy. Â Don't use your char as a disruptive and destructive force in a community. Â If you think your char would be like this? Rethink having that char. Â If you think your char would do something that would make the game unfun for others and yourself?

You have control over not doing it.

It's as simple as not pressing enter.

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