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Telluride · **02-24-2016, 01:27 PM**

(02-24-2016, 01:21 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(02-24-2016, 01:19 PM)Seriphyn Wrote: Pretty sure Raubahn is the most powerful DoW in all of Eorzea. Basically means that they can be as or more powerful than mages, and Jobs aren't anything than specializations. Raubahn is just a GLD and did all that. Kale, as an individual who might obsess over being as powerful as Raubahn, will forever be Jobless, now.

Oh, and Kale was definitely one of those Flame Veterans. That made me happy.

Ilberd begs to differ.

Ilberd's ability to still breathe after 3.0 exists only because SE used both Raubahn and the WoL for a blatant Worf Effect:

You know it's true.

Warren Castille · **02-24-2016, 01:28 PM**

True, but the pecking order is still

WOL > Ilberd in a fight for their lives
WOL > Raubahn in a spar
Ilberd > Raubahn in a fight for their lives

WoL 2-0, Ilberd 1-1, Raubahn 0-2

Nodem · **02-24-2016, 01:40 PM**

(02-24-2016, 01:04 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(02-24-2016, 12:58 PM)McBeefÂ© Wrote:
(02-24-2016, 10:21 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: 4) Sei is a fucking wizard for managing to construct an incredibly accurate story based on draconic corruption two years before we got to see what it would look like in Estinien
This is actually a discussion I've had with people in the past. Certain things Square Enix has done have been so similar to plots we've run that we almost thought they'd been reading the forums.Â

However I think they're just really good at foreshadowing events. They put little hints in the lore of where the story is going.

Why not both? I'm obviously going to bat for my friend, but that storyline was concluded creatively before patch 2.3 even came out, before we knew shit about shit with Ishgard or Dragons beyond the original MSQ. When Heavensward launch dropped the bomb about the dragon eyes (beyond Nidhogg) everyone involved basically freaked out at how eerily close the concepts were to one another.

I've seen things like this happen as well. Something another person RP's out, or myself, somehow becoming relevant later on. Somethings were foreshadow but in rare cases crazy things are done before we have any lore upon the subject.

For 3.2... About time somebody knocked some sense into that spoiled brat... Wish it was us though.

Warren Castille Wrote:5) Aymeric is so fucking dead

Am I the only person that's getting these weird vibes that Aymeric is falling for the WoL? Even my character's face gave away the thought, "Not this shit again."

Riven · **02-24-2016, 01:50 PM**

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Warren Castille Wrote:5) Aymeric is so fucking dead

Quote:Am I the only person that's getting these weird vibes that Aymeric is falling for the WoL? Even my character's face gave away the thought, "Not this shit again."

I've been getting those vibes too.Â And Riven was just ". . .No."

Estinien/Nidhogg though...when that scene was playing out, all you could hear from my room was me screaming in shock.Â But it looked like to me he aimed for a less lethal area-he didn't get her RIGHT on the back of the neck, unless he was aiming to snap her spine in a different location.

Caspar · **02-24-2016, 02:16 PM**

Personally i liked to think it was exasperation and worry. Right as she made that face at him in the cutscene after Ayylmao offered to have a drink with her when it's all over, I was thinking "nice death flag." It was as if WoL is thinking that too. XD

Nodem · **02-24-2016, 02:19 PM**

(02-24-2016, 02:16 PM)Caspar Wrote: Personally i liked to think it was exasperation and worry. Right as she made that face at him in the cutscene after Ayylmao offered to have a drink with her when it's all over, I was thinking "nice death flag." It was as if WoL is thinking that too. XD

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And it wasn't just him offering the drink that made me think it, it was the way he did it. I'll have to rewatch the cutscene in other languages, but it seemed like he was desperate to keep you there longer and get close to you by the way he stopped the WoL.

mongi291 · **02-24-2016, 03:56 PM**

(02-24-2016, 12:03 PM)allgivenover Wrote: I don't see how the maid was pure evil.

Yeah... I was kinda joking there.
Even though I was legitimately scared when I realized she drugged us.

Warren Castille · **02-24-2016, 03:57 PM**

I freaked out more when she called Warren her lover. It was a little creepy. Then again, her having a voice should have been a major clue.

Warren Castille · **02-24-2016, 04:01 PM**

Talking about it in the chat after this got posted:

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Parvacake · **02-24-2016, 04:13 PM**

I cannot even begin to explain the epic amount of satisfaction I got from Thancred punching baby Fortemps. I just sat there hissing 'YYYYYEEEESSSSSSS'.

Boyfriend and I called Aymeric dying at the offer for a drink as well. Though I'm also clinging to some hope that he'll actually pull through and others will end up dying around him. Too many elezen deaths v.v There's also the 3.1 semi foreshadow where Edmont looks at him and goes 'I see so much of Haurchefant in you. I couldn't bear to lose another son'.

It also makes sense E/N didn't kill Vidofnir. I don't imagine his brother would be too keen on one of his babies being killed. Especially not when she's working towards what him and Shiva wanted way back when, regardless of how grumpy he might be now.

Going to call it here: I think Hraesvelgr is going to finally be fed up with Nidhogg's shit and part of the War's end will be them duking it out dragon to dragon.

Virella · **02-24-2016, 04:14 PM**

Man as an Ishgard roleplay

I was soooo afraid they were just going to have the Ishgardians bow down and accept Aymeric making peace with the dragons

Thankfully they didn't

Ty SE ty

Warren Castille · **02-24-2016, 04:18 PM**

"It's cool, bro. I only tried to cripple your daughter, I didn't kill her! You can't be mad!"

Seems flimsy to me, that's all. Not killing Big Lady V still pisses off every side of the war, something killing her also would have done. Nidhogg doesn't strike me as a force of mercy in the world.

We'll see. I'm 99% sure Aymeric bites it, but I could also see him doing something else that's stupid and would remove himself from power/the big picture/etcetera. The pauses and his weird phrasing makes me think he has a plan to pull it all together. Get himself offed by Nidhogg, maybe, and unite everyone around his death.

Just like in the Avengers!

mongi291 · **02-24-2016, 04:30 PM**

In my opinion he'll not die.
I think he'll be hit by Murphy's Law (AKA everything that could go wrong will go wrong; I mean, that has happened like 5 times already so far.) multiple times until he has a breakdown, then he'll recover and do something awesome. Then, MAYBE he'll die, likely in an heroic sacrifice.

Parvacake · **02-24-2016, 04:31 PM**

(02-24-2016, 04:18 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Get himself offed by Nidhogg, maybe, and unite everyone around his death.

Just like in the Avengers!

Or like Shiva.

allgivenover · **02-24-2016, 04:43 PM**

(02-24-2016, 01:16 PM)Shoshopu Wrote:
(02-24-2016, 11:06 AM)allgivenover Wrote: The abuse of Succor by the Amdapori included giving life to the dead and to maybe inanimate objects.

How so? I mean we saw some undead Amdapori and Mhachi enemies but I figured they were just your standard undead (unsurprising since the place was crawling with voidsent, not every body could be properly put to rest), not a successful attempt at bringing the dead back to life, unless the former actually is what you were implying and I misunderstood- I felt like there wasn't much lore revealed in the new dungeon (as much as I loved what we got) so I'm feeling like there must've been something I missed somewhere.

The former. What I get from this is that they used Succor to make undead, which is sort of but not really different from regular undead?

Although it has been stated that White Magic can "deliver comrades from the icy grip of death itself", I don't think this means it can recover the long dead.

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