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LiadansWhisper · **03-13-2016, 05:47 PM**

(03-13-2016, 05:37 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: Funnily enough, the first named White Mage in the series never learns it because Holy didn't exist back then, and sacrifices his life to grant your party Ultima.

Which I think is analogous to Holy in the later games?

I know in some games it was intended for use against undead (it "cleansed" the shit out of them, which destroyed them, kinda like how healing spells destroy undead in D&D).

McBeefâ„¢ · **03-13-2016, 08:20 PM**

I always thought succor was basically the same as black magic. They both pull aether from the land to do stuff, one just has better marketing.

A holy can kill you the same as a flare.

LiadansWhisper · **03-13-2016, 08:28 PM**

(03-13-2016, 08:20 PM)McBeefÂ© Wrote: I always thought succor was basically the same as black magic. They both pull aether from the land to do stuff, one just has better marketing.

A holy can kill you the same as a flare.

Both would be fairly equally damaging (to the land, since I believe it's still less damaging to actual people than Flare is, iirc - but I think I mentioned to you a while back that Holy being a level 45 spell is just kinda weird given the way it's treated in other games). It just contradicts in-game lore that Succor isn't supposed to be used as a weapon at all.

McBeefâ„¢ · **03-13-2016, 08:35 PM**

(03-13-2016, 08:28 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:
(03-13-2016, 08:20 PM)McBeefÂ© Wrote: I always thought succor was basically the same as black magic. They both pull aether from the land to do stuff, one just has better marketing.

A holy can kill you the same as a flare.

Both would be fairly equally damaging (to the land, since I believe it's still less damaging to actual people than Flare is, iirc - but I think I mentioned to you a while back that Holy being a level 45 spell is just kinda weird given the way it's treated in other games). Â It just contradicts in-game lore that Succor isn't supposed to be used as a weapon at all.

Like I said, white magic has a better marketing department.

I mean come on, who expects the name 'Black Magic' to make people comfortable.

LiadansWhisper · **03-13-2016, 08:45 PM**

(03-13-2016, 08:35 PM)McBeefÂ© Wrote: Like I said, white magic has a better marketing department.

I mean come on, who expects the name 'Black Magic' to make people comfortable.

One exists because someone, somewhere was hurting really badly and someone else wanted to make them feel better.

The other one exists because someone, somewhere saw some other guy and thought, "I want to set him on fire."

McBeefâ„¢ · **03-13-2016, 08:49 PM**

(03-13-2016, 08:45 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:
(03-13-2016, 08:35 PM)McBeefÂ© Wrote: Like I said, white magic has a better marketing department.

I mean come on, who expects the name 'Black Magic' to make people comfortable.

One exists because someone, somewhere was hurting really badly and someone else wanted to make them feel better.

The other one exists because someone, somewhere saw some other guy and thought, "I want to set him on fire."

Well I mean, yeah. But using it to blow someone up doesn't mean you're corrupting it.

Lots of inventions are made for good purposes and get used for harm. People used fire to cook meat, then they discovered you could burn orphanages with it.Â

Same thing.

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