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***Nero*** · **06-16-2016, 12:10 PM**

The most recent Live Letter during E3 has confirmed that the sale of housing for profit is not allowed, and that the sale of in-game housing for in-game currency is actionable by Final Fantasy XIV GMs.

Threads advertising the sale of an in-game house or lot in any section of the RPC forums are no longer permitted and will be archived at moderator discretion.

After further consideration and examination and complete failure to find a definitive answer from Square Enix on the subject, threads advertising the sale of housing are temporarily suspended until the official transcription of the Live Letter is available.

EDIT: In the wake of the automatic housing demolition, any requests for housing (whether or not it is for resale) are not permitted and will be removed at moderator discretion.

Knislinge · **06-16-2016, 12:33 PM**

I suppose that's pretty good news for those who have been frustrated with the people buying up new lots and selling them for a 70 million gil profit...

This might be a dumb question, though, but... then how does one go about getting a house? I was under the impression that when players/fcs moved to a bigger lot, they'd sell the old one to other players. Is one supposed to be very lucky when checking listings, then?

McBeefâ„¢ · **06-16-2016, 12:35 PM**

Players are just supposed to abandon houses they don't want anymore.

You can arrange for yourself to be nearby when they do so. However charging people tens of millions for that privledge is no longer allowed.

**Unnamed Mercenary** · **06-16-2016, 12:40 PM**

Their wording had been something like "selling for exorbitant fees".

So basically, no small house scheduled abandonment for 50mil gil.

Something tells me SE is probably still fine with people selling for the amount the plot actually cost for. ...so if a plot was 3.5mil, selling abandonment for that is likely fine. We'll need to wait on the official writeup. They did ask for Party Finder advertisements to be reported though, so it's likely that it's still supposed to be a hush-hush done in private thing.

***Nero*** · **06-16-2016, 12:51 PM**

While the wording did suggest that "exorbitant" charges were what were specifically permitted, for the sake of avoiding loopholes, any advertisements for the sale of in-game housing in exchange for in-game currency are no longer permitted.

Knislinge · **06-16-2016, 01:07 PM**

Alright, that all makes a lot of sense, thanks for clearing it up for me!

Valence · **06-16-2016, 01:34 PM**

They even ask people to report.

Not gonna complain.

Parvacake · **06-16-2016, 01:46 PM**

Thank. Fuck.

Lydia Lightfoot · **06-16-2016, 01:47 PM**

Did the live letter say anything about the sale of a Free Company?

Arrelaine · **06-16-2016, 03:06 PM**

They didn't, but given the fact that most people's reasons to buy an FC is to get the house that they have... probably not allowed either.

Lydia Lightfoot · **06-16-2016, 03:15 PM**

Not necessarily... a lot of time and effort has to go into unlocking airship sectors, for example, and that's of value to a lot of players who'd prefer to just jump right into it. Heck, the value of the parts on those airships alone is tremendous.

***Nero*** · **06-16-2016, 03:27 PM**

The sale of FCs is still allowed, basically on the premise that the FC is the item being traded and the house is just an aspect of that item.

Hyakki · **06-16-2016, 05:34 PM**

(06-16-2016, 03:27 PM)Nero Wrote: The sale of FCs is still allowed, basically on the premise that the FC is the item being traded and the house is just an aspect of that item.

There's the loophle needed to carry on with house scalping. Create and level a FC, buy a plot, claim you're charging for time/gil invested into the company.

Caspar · **06-16-2016, 06:12 PM**

(06-16-2016, 05:34 PM)Hyakki Wrote:
(06-16-2016, 03:27 PM)Nero Wrote: The sale of FCs is still allowed, basically on the premise that the FC is the item being traded and the house is just an aspect of that item.

There's the loophle needed to carry on with house scalping. Create and level a FC, buy a plot, claim you're charging for time/gil invested into the company.

They could do that, but at least this time it requires you to go through the trouble of leaving your FC and gathering others to help level it, which will take time rather than just gil which players have outrageous amounts of. It might slow scalpers down. Key word being "might."

Lydia Lightfoot · **06-16-2016, 07:40 PM**

(06-16-2016, 05:34 PM)Hyakki Wrote:
(06-16-2016, 03:27 PM)Nero Wrote: The sale of FCs is still allowed, basically on the premise that the FC is the item being traded and the house is just an aspect of that item.

There's the loophle needed to carry on with house scalping. Create and level a FC, buy a plot, claim you're charging for time/gil invested into the company.

It does take quite a bit of time and effort to level the FC to that point, though, even if one doesn't do anything else with it (such as unlocking the workshop, etc).

I think it's also important to realize that the majority of people who are flipping houses, at least as far as I've seen, have been people who bought the house as a personal house. I'd bet actual money that there wasn't a single FC pre-3.3 that was used to buy a house at the 3.3 housing rush for the purpose of selling the FC and the house.

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