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McBeefâ„¢ · **07-08-2016, 04:22 AM**

I don't really give a fuck what they say im gonna keep doing what I'm doin.

Nebbs · **07-08-2016, 07:25 AM**

Lore Bomb? On the positive side... a great excuse to reboot or even complementary change your character and shock everyone!

Time to get my shower scene prepared..Â

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Kilieit · **07-08-2016, 07:31 AM**

I think most of my stuff for public RP is wibbly-wobbly wishy-washy enough that I could make it work without any major retcons or "well sorry guys, can't run this storyline after all" revelations.

My public RP stories were adapted with the purpose of making public RP with people of inevitably slightly differing views on the lore a) possible, b) easy, and c) fun. This means they tend to be relatively flexible in terms of details - so I can fit in with as many different people as it's possible to do so with while still maintaining some sort of core consistency.

Like there's some stuff - almost exclusively backstory detailing stuff - that would have to change with new information on racial history or culture... but that's the kind of stuff that isn't exactly central to the character anyway?

Like, uh. When I say "my Hellsguard is from northern Vylbrand", what I mean is "she's from a relatively isolated community, not geographically close to the main bulk of her race's population; this meant she had to become an adventurer when she fell out with her family, because it's not like she could go and live one valley over with her great aunt's friend".

If it was confirmed tomorrow that there are 100% no Hellsguard on Vylbrand in the last 500 years ever (which is kinda possible, that the lore team could make that decision? I don't think it's been confirmed to the contrary?)... I could just find a different location somewhere slightly aside from Abalathia's Spine that "means" the same thing. It's not vital that she be from that specific location; it's just a(n honestly slightly arbitrary) detail.

Our WoL AU, on the other hand... xD Do you know how difficult it is to write about ~The Warrior Of Light~ in a fanfic and not include at least one headcanon that will be completely overturned the second a developer opens their mouth next? But then, I roleplayed canon characters (in another setting) for 2 years. You sort of get used to rolling with the punches. Or knowing which ones you care about enough to block.

Virella · **07-08-2016, 10:13 AM**

I played it safe with Ave, and mostly my headcanons revolve around ancient Ala Mhigan tribe rituals. And seeming SE gave RPers the freedom to say "Yup, you can create your own clan, you don't have to be of one of the ones we gave you", I don't think its going to turn out to be problem.

But else I will just slap myself on the wrist, and retcon it if need be. Simple as that.

Valence · **07-08-2016, 11:42 AM**

Most (if not all) of what I introduce in my background tries to be directly anchored in lore facts, so... Unless they suddenly start retconning...

Flynn Rosenberg · **07-08-2016, 12:19 PM**

I played it safe and went for public/community first, since this is an MMO after all. Stuck as close to the lore as I could so I wouldn't have to retcon in the future. Sure, my character background has been accused of being boring because he's not voidtouched/edgedrk/lastofmykind kind of guy, because of that I've had to avoid 80% of RP that's available to me anyway.Â

Refugee from Ala Mhigo. Simple, done before, fairly common, very little can go wrong. I'd rather retcon a little than retcon a lot.

Valence · **07-08-2016, 01:08 PM**

But... That' actually what's not boring...

Flynn Rosenberg · **07-08-2016, 01:53 PM**

(07-08-2016, 01:08 PM)Valence Wrote: But... That' actually what's not boring...

*shrug* apparently I am boring for avoiding drama so I dunno xD I just tend to stay away from things that have a risk of getting retconned over something that we barely know anything about.

Cynel1 · **07-08-2016, 02:33 PM**

i refuse to be on Lolorito's payroll.

Morningstar1337 · **07-09-2016, 11:34 AM**

Most of what I have for Aurora is rooted in reactions to the MSQ and other things the WoL can only access. Which is a moot point since I;m considering putting that in a Journal divorced from public RP. The Only common detail being that she is from Sharlayan (Hard to retcon without explaining Palpalymo and Krile's involvement with the Scions and the latter being from Val) and a desire to reform the Forum (Particularly by ousting the Bilbiothecs), as well as Ul'Dah (A Task more blatantly Sisyphean) So any particular headcannon I have would be safe unless they involved BLM or went M. Night Shamalan on the Bilbiothecs and revealed them as the good guys.

Andromeda · **07-13-2016, 01:14 AM**

There's also the question of the unreliable narrator. The game has had several character's statements about the function of the world later contradicted (the revelations about the origins of the Dragonsong War are probably the most apparent example to come to mind) and usually new bits of lore come from unreliable sources. While OOC we treat these, rightly, as facts that are true until proven false, it can be said that a character powerfully disagrees with this new fact and disputes its legitimacy based on the same unreliability.Â

And our characters, themselves, are not reliable sources. No one really is on their own life. We misremember, even convince ourselves of lies about our past all the time.Â

For instance: my Miqo'te Noble is a scandalous figure in Ishgard for not being Hyur or Elezen and daring to assume a station of nobility. If a patch suddenly introduced a family of noble Miqo'te everyone was cool with, maybe my character feels insecure and precieves this scandal and hostility when it isn't actually there? My headcanon and revised canon don't have to be in contradiction just because they disagree.Â

Similarly, in the fallout of 3.3 (spoilerish) I'm keeping Andromeda distrusting and largely hostile toward Ishgard because she believes the reforms are being undertaken halfheartedly or dishonestly. We have no reason to believe that Ishgard's reforms are not genuine, but ICly Rommie still has every reason to distrust them and hold them in ill regard.Â

The character probably most at risk for running into a problem with new canon is Illua, who is a defector from the IXth Legion and was, in her youth, the product of a failed experiment to infuse a Garlean with enough aether to make them magically active. A lot of pieces could eventually fall apart there, but in this one I can make Illua an unreliable narrator of her own life. If, say the IXth was involved with the burning of Doma and she said it wasn't, maybe that's shame? Or if there were experiments like the one I have in her backstory that succeeded, maybe she simply is unaware of the results?Â

There's a lot of little ways you can tweak the story to fit new developments if they don't outright blow you out of the water, or even if they do, by playing up the fact that the things people say are very, very open to being lies, half-truths or mistakes.

Miah Gamduhla · **07-13-2016, 04:41 AM**

I'm a pretty fervent believer that more "average" characters make better characters. If I keep that in mind when working on an origin or planning for the future, its pretty easy for me to keep my character(s) within the established lore.

I don't view the games lore as a constraint, but more of a medium that we as RPers work with. The tools are there, and its up to us to create stories with those tools. Just as a good musician puts themselves into a cover of another musicians work. Its up to us to determine what liberties we can and should take, but we have to be aware that what we do may not sit well with others.

Anyway! Enough rambling. If something were to come from SE in a loredump that contradicts something in Miahs history or her character or whatever, I would try to find a creative, sensible way to adjust to it. Failing that, I would just phase that aspect out - it would be pretty easy for me because Miahs character isn't dependent on anything that requires me to take many liberties.

V'aleera · **07-13-2016, 05:22 AM**

(07-13-2016, 04:41 AM)Miah Gamduhla Wrote: I'm a pretty fervent believer that more "average" characters make better characters.

"Better" is a fairly loaded worded. I'd say average characters are much safer/easier characters to play, for a variety of reasons, and that ease of play results in less skilled or experienced writers getting much better results instead of fumbling around with a more complex and extravagant character that would require more finesse to play to appropriate effect.

Momoka · **07-13-2016, 05:24 AM**

Considering how little about herself my character actually chooses to tell people, zero, nada, zilch, unless "lol gridania doesnt actually hate duskwights, JUST KIDDING!" becomes a thing. That would throw a wrench into a lot of why Lunelle is who she is.

Valence · **07-13-2016, 06:34 AM**

(07-13-2016, 05:22 AM)V Wrote:
(07-13-2016, 04:41 AM)Miah Gamduhla Wrote: I'm a pretty fervent believer that more "average" characters make better characters.

"Better" is a fairly loaded worded. I'd say average characters are much safer/easier characters to play, for a variety of reasons, and that ease of play results in less skilled or experienced writers getting much better results instead of fumbling around with a more complex and extravagant character that would require more finesse to play to appropriate effect.

They are not easier, quite the opposite in my view. The more average and common, the harder it gets to find something standing out, and then the more it asks for subtlety and a good grasp on believability.

Although your point is definitely true as well I guess. A case could be made for both. It's true that a modest character has less chances to be a ludicrous walking disaster when played bad.

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