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Kellach Woods · **10-03-2016, 08:10 PM**

(10-03-2016, 05:50 PM)Goren Ghastille Wrote: Now just watch, when in 4.0 Alex becomes the new tank pet and all of this speculation is for naught.

Just as Alexander knew it would be.

Why do you think I said watch next expac?

Honestly, I find that the trances are closer to what I expect out of a FF summon, so if the skills for Summoner went that way I'd be much happier.

Momo · **10-16-2016, 10:51 PM**

(10-03-2016, 07:16 PM)Gegenji Wrote:
(10-03-2016, 07:10 PM)Goren Ghastille Wrote: Yeah, you make plenty of valid reasoning as to why it's plausible, I just like acting as a foil to people. This is a known thing!
Well, I made this thread for reason why I might NOT be able to have Gogon do it just as much reasons why he might. So being a foil helps! It brings up things I might overlook - either consciously or unconsciously - that lean in either direction.

And yeah. Sophia's wards had a backdoor in them as part of a plot via sympathizers amongst the Allagan. They were just found out and killed before they could actually use it to wake her up deep behind enemy lines. However, something tripped them - it's implied that it was a clumsy Garlean but even the heroes aren't completely buying that - and released the Demiurges.

I just wonder if the Allagan were trancing Sephy or summoning little Seph-Egis before or after his confinement, for example. Or were they just kept held and only really used as training simulations as the Allagan worked towards creating more Dalamunds? Current summoners would have a much more difficult time explaining having Trances/Egis of Sephy and Sophia than any of the others too... considering the only time they were available were Allagan times and the brief window when the WoL beat them up.

Few things,

~Alexander outwardly and inwardly affects the flow of aether with its body and core. Y'shtola sort of sees this as the flow of time and space are reversed back and forth while observing Alexander's actions.

~Depending on the timeline you follow with your character, or where you feel comfortable going back to retcon/add, it is possible that your character could have come in contact with Alexander's aether or abilities.

~If during Alexander's past existence, your character came in contact, or was in some way touched with the aetherial charge from Alexander, whether outside or inside of him, I think it would have been possible that your character might have attuned to it, and may not have even known. (as we know with Bahamut's trance, in which the WoL has attuned, but feels no different afterwards, until a moment of great need, causes the trance to take effect)

~If you personal aetherial self or "soul" was tainted or attuned even unknowingly by the residual aether, it is possible, that in the event that Alexander has erased itself, that aetherial change within may not have been altered. Sort of hard to explain, but I believe we have instances of the aetherial self remaining untouched by outside forces at the deepest levels, because of the existence of the self and the consciousness.

~Time and Space magic, are not outside the realm of ability, even in the case of Non-WoL, as I believe that Astrologians are time/space mages even if in the lesser sense? Ultimately, I would either use this attunement as a major part of your character from here on out, and limiting the ability of the trance to clear and concise points which can or cannot be affected to make it more believable.Â

All that being said, I wouldn't personally play this hand, but the more willing to bend the lore, the more willing you would be to go with this idea. I don't think there is anything wrong with it, if made into a big plot point, being well threaded into your character's existence, and largely limiting the use and ability of it.

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