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I am not that familiar with the FF scene in particular, but I think there's a little too much effort going on to try to put things in boxes, and too many statements of finality. Â Its a big world, its a big game, and its a big server with many RP groups. Â Things exist on a continuum, and you may not always find exactly what you're looking for but you do have many options. Â The best thing you can do if you want to raid, in any game, is to start looking for groups that you think will meet your interests, and see if you can give them a try. These are really the key things to think about in terms of the group you would like to join:
1) Commitment: Both in terms of time expected to be provided to the group, as well as the expectation of what you must provide to the group. Â Things such as being required to join the FC, or required to maintain alt classes, or to raid as roles requested by leadership rather than preferred by the player. Â Expectations for non-raiding time to be committed, and demands on a willingness to do something that isn't fun, but is progress for the group (grinding relentlessly on things that are difficult, for example, rather than stopping when it isn't fun).
2) Attitude and Culture: this varies considerably from group to group, even those with the same sort of expectations. Â Some lean more toward lighthearted "fun" others find their "fun" only in hard work. This covers things as far ranging as expected behavior and language, treatment of female players, style of humor, and what people talk about beyond the game itself, and just the general level of drama that occurs.
3) Capabilities and Success:This is something that should not be overlooked, and despite some of the suggestions here cannot always be determined from the first two characterstics (especially when dealing with a raiding environment of only EIGHT people). Â Think about the sort of group you are willing to be a part of, do you really want to kill the final bosses so badly every tier that you're willing to compromise on other factors? Â Or do you just want to raid with people you like and are happy being a tier behind? Â This is really worth some serious consideration!
Ultimately what you really want is a group that has an attitude and culture that you enjoy that has an acceptable level of commitment and success! Â Finding that perfect group is pretty much impossible, so you'll always end up compromising in one way or another
And even with that in mind, worrying about things won't get you anywhere. Â All you can do is look and try until you find something to your liking ^_^
1) Commitment: Both in terms of time expected to be provided to the group, as well as the expectation of what you must provide to the group. Â Things such as being required to join the FC, or required to maintain alt classes, or to raid as roles requested by leadership rather than preferred by the player. Â Expectations for non-raiding time to be committed, and demands on a willingness to do something that isn't fun, but is progress for the group (grinding relentlessly on things that are difficult, for example, rather than stopping when it isn't fun).
2) Attitude and Culture: this varies considerably from group to group, even those with the same sort of expectations. Â Some lean more toward lighthearted "fun" others find their "fun" only in hard work. This covers things as far ranging as expected behavior and language, treatment of female players, style of humor, and what people talk about beyond the game itself, and just the general level of drama that occurs.
3) Capabilities and Success:This is something that should not be overlooked, and despite some of the suggestions here cannot always be determined from the first two characterstics (especially when dealing with a raiding environment of only EIGHT people). Â Think about the sort of group you are willing to be a part of, do you really want to kill the final bosses so badly every tier that you're willing to compromise on other factors? Â Or do you just want to raid with people you like and are happy being a tier behind? Â This is really worth some serious consideration!
Ultimately what you really want is a group that has an attitude and culture that you enjoy that has an acceptable level of commitment and success! Â Finding that perfect group is pretty much impossible, so you'll always end up compromising in one way or another
And even with that in mind, worrying about things won't get you anywhere. Â All you can do is look and try until you find something to your liking ^_^
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