(09-22-2014, 06:26 PM)Aldotsk Wrote: *sighs* I really really don't like it when someone is actually making this into personal and start insulting others to a point that this thread will be closed ... AGAIN. (at least 6 threads regarding housing has been closed due to your constant attacks and complaints)
Citation needed. Â Just because I'm saying things that you don't like doesn't mean that I'm personally attacking anyone else. Â Disagreeing with you - or anyone else - is not a personal attack, no matter how much you might wish otherwise. Â And while I have noted several personal attacks on me, I figure people are free to say stupid things all day long if they want. Â Doesn't mean I have the right to tell them to shut up. Â So to be clear: I've told no one to shut up. Â It would be nice if you'd stop telling me - and others who agree with me - to shut up because you don't like what we're saying.
Quote:I don't know what your problem is. Really. I am so fed up with you trying to insult me from the first housing discussions when I clearly said it is fair for FC to gain their house over personal house because all MMO games require guilds to be priority over single player because that is how you make a community and enjoy games with friends.
I literally have no idea what you're talking about here. Â I haven't tried to personally insult or attack you, and I'm not sure why my apparent evil insistence on not agreeing with you translates into me personally attacking you. Â I haven't called you any names, I haven't accused you have anything. Â I've just said I don't think you'll feel the same way when it's actually something you care about.
Quote:The game has not lied to me. The interface, combat system, and beginner friendly system has been ALL implemented to 2.0 as Yoshida promised. New class has been promised. It's not Musketeer, but Ninja is cool too. New dungeons always come up every new patch when some new patches in other MMORPG don't give you new dungeons until the NEW expansion. There's not even new story really or events that happen every month or seasonally. The housing appeared with ridiculous prices and personal rooms in the FC house appeared. It wasn't a lie, they all came out as promised. This patch released personal housing as promised. Just not enough for people to buy the plots.
I never said the game lied to you. Â I did, however, say that Yoshida lied when he made the statements he made last December and then never clarified them.
Quote:There will be lies, but I've not seen Yoshi-P and FF14 devs actually lie as much as other gaming dev team did. They have done their best to this point to keep their fans be satisfied. All I said was "wait and hope that it'll change", and all I've also said was "he isn't completely wrong and he's trying his best". But instead, I get an insult and uncivilized talk toward me. Really?
I'm not sure where you're getting insulted or attacked. Â If disagreeing with you and saying that, well, actually, I do consider having my trust broken an issue is insulting to you..I mean, man, I can't be responsible for you deciding that anything I say is an insult to you. Â You made that decision yourself.
Quote:You are a veteran player of FF14 and RPC, and you should be at least have the ideal of being friendly and tell members to calm down and be patient - but instead you make weird assumptions that the prices were going to be down, and you are slamming down on people who are trying to tell others to just be patient?
Um...I still have no idea what you are talking about. Â I feel like you're either confusing me with someone else, or you have just decided that I'm saying things that I'm not. Â Let me be clear for the nth time: No one cares about the prices. Â Seriously, no one cares. Â It was never about the prices. Â Not saying I don't think the prices are ridiculous - I do think they are. Â But the prices are pointless and completely secondary to the conversation when it's legitimately impossible to buy a house at all within 20 minutes of the patch going live. Â This is completely silly. Â I don't understand why this is even up for debate?
Quote:"people like you" is very far stretched, and the game isn't going bad. These are the main reasons I wanted to play FF14 before this housing idea came up:
Housing was my least concern because I knew myself that I had to earn money for myself since no one in my FC besides my friends in Gilgamesh wanted to save. We all ripped people off by selling philo items for 50-60k everyday doing endless dungeons to farm for the stones and then we gathered enough, and when they quit they gave me all of their Gils and I went to Balmung (They only quit because they wanted to play other games. I dont know when they will return). but as for myself, I did the same thing in Balmung selling it for ridiculously expensive and still earned a lot and then joined in Titan HM teams to earn gils that way. Then I started selling more items and did hunts as Ellaria.Â
- I liked FF14 concepts and lores and the graphics. I played 1.0 but the reason I quit was I really hated losing XP and LVL like FF11 and it felt too similar to me and the limit on amount of hours I can play to gain lvl seemed silly.
- I like the combat system, dungeons, FATE, and the raids that they have given to me. It's challenging, and yet fun. (I havent done dungeons in a while because of RP, but yes - that is the MAIN reason I do like this game.)
- Class systems are very open than any other games. I like it. End of story.
- Roleplaying with people were the main reason I like the game. Like whole events kept me enjoying all the time.Â
Aside from the point, I avoided a lot of RP during those times and did endless farmings and I got here now. That's not the reason I came here to talk in the thread. I came to this thread that it's not the end for them to close the book and conclude that they won't listen or lie to us. Who knows if they lie or not? They haven't really shown 2.4 yet, so why judge now?
Thank you for the background information, but I don't have a clue what it has to do with this thread? Â I'm sorry that you are so upset by the very idea that maybe some people won't put up with being lied to by people they are paying. Â Everyone has their breaking point, after all. Â What's important to one person won't be important at all to someone else. Â What's important to me isn't going to be important to you, and what's important to you may not matter a hill of beans to me. Â And that's okay. Â My point, however, was that you can watch a pattern of behavior and judge - by looking at past actions - how a particular person or group of persons will behave in the future. Â When someone lies to you, that is something you add into that value judgement.
Quote:But seriously, please do not include me as "people like you", because I surely don't want this game to go bad but I don't want to expect that housing is the only reason I play this game because I feel like I paid 79.99 and ($15.00) per month for nothing. I find myself something else to do everyday at FF14, and that is making new friends and I am very satisfied where I am.
You know, I really have no idea why you seem to think that myself, and others who are upset with how SE handled this entire situation, want the "game to go bad." Â Generally speaking, people only get upset when they care. Â They care when they want a game to be good. Â That's generally why people speak out when they see something going the wrong way.Â
Quote:All these complaints are nothing but negative energy and it's dragging everyone down. So I suggest that at least have yourself one more chance to have a faith than keep saying "He's gonna lie" "It's never gonna happen".
I'm going to gently suggest that if you don't want to read complaints about something, going to a thread where people are putting those complaints together is probably not the wisest course of action. Â No one here is making you read this thread, but it would be nice if you could have the kindness to allow people who are upset to talk about being upset. Â No one is trying to hurt you. Â You don't have to come in here and defend SE. Â But it's a bit misguided for you to tell upset people to stop talking about their upset in a thread basically dedicated to talking about the situation. Â I'm not quite following the logic myself.
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