(02-06-2015, 01:11 PM)Zhavi Wrote:(02-06-2015, 07:00 AM)Nebbs Wrote: Off the wall but.. There is only OOC?
We decide what our characters do, no one else. We are not playing a part that someone else has written, we are responding to what is happening in a scene and then translating that to actions of a character.
So while there may be separation of context, there is no separation of responsibility.Â
Now we are all flawed and have different norms, so friction will occur. If that is spoiling the enjoyment and can't be resolved IC, you need to talk OOC. Though even then, just because it is OOC does not mean things will be nice and smooth.Â
People sometimes get along and sometimes they don't... that's just Life.
I disagree. Â Certain things need to be kept separate -- one thing that I have seen happen too often is when two characters fall in love icly. Â Now, it's fine if both of the players are romantically involved, too, but sometimes one of the players starts liking the other player, but that feeling isn't returned. Â OOC stalking ensues, kills the rp, and leaves the player being stalked feeling unsafe and harassed.
Another thing is two characters have a disagreement, or a character does something really bad. Â The other characters start to dislike that character. Â OOCly, the players start to dislike the player of the bad character. Â That player then becomes an outcast in the community, despite the fact that the player is nothing like the character.
Last one: Something bad happens to a character. Â The player of that character takes the pain the character is going through and internalizes it until it gets to the point that the player is depressed with everyday actions, and the angst begins to affect the player's life.
These are a little extreme, yes, but they can and have happened before and clearly show that there should be a line between the characters and what they are doing, and the players' lives. Â Yes, you're right that there will be some bleed-through, because we are the ones in control -- but there is a line that should not be crossed. Â We are not our characters, and we do not live in the world our characters live in. Â That must be acknowledged at all times.
We are playing pretend in a way that lets us have fun and experience occasional catharsis, nothing more.
I think you describe just normal interaction, RP as an activity may loosen some of the normal constraints but such trouble is not limited to the RP community.
I have tried many approaches, but I am left feeling that people's feelings are not bound by rules and their "self" will come through in the end. Everyone is flawed, so expect trouble.
Take guilds for example, they filter applications so that they narrow the people to a "type", even then every guild I have been in has troubles. People cause the troubles not the characters.Â
My own approach is to be "casual" and not take it too seriously (I take RP seriously and prefer 100% IC, I hate OOC attempts to fix the outcome).On the few occasions I have gotten close to people due to great RP that leads to OOC friendship, it dies in the end. But then at my age that sometimes takes a long time and in some cases decades. The RP friends that I have that have persisted are those that I have a relaxed interaction with rather than any intense RP.
Maybe I am agreeing with you, and that deep involved RP goes too deep, and it is best to keep it more superficial with some hard separation. (or maybe that is not what you are saying?)
And.. to add.. if people do want to cross some conceptual line and not keep it separate.. I wish them luck. If it is consensual then I'd back it. But then I dislike imposed rules and stereotyping people.
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