(02-13-2015, 04:29 PM)Edgar Wrote:(02-13-2015, 04:14 PM)Titor Wrote:(02-13-2015, 04:10 PM)Intaki Wrote:It is opening up more options for people to get scammed. If an artist says they will take alternative payment, and all the negotiations take place in skype/etc there is no way to enforce payment, there is no social front to go with. The artist could be like "person x never paid me, so I never drew the art"(02-13-2015, 04:03 PM)Titor Wrote: it is making it worse.How, specifically, is it making things worse?
and the other person can be like
"I did pay you! Where is my art" And never did pay, but could cause a scene against a particular person to ruin their reputation and there will be no proof to either the artist receiving the money or the person paying it, or the public eye being a pseudo-observer of the agreement
These sneaky transactions leave a loootttt of room for scamming.
There is a thing we have that prevents that from ever happening.
It's called a list. I never gave you art? You paid me? Where's your name on the fucking list, then? Oh, it isn't there? Then there was no transaction, was there? *Watches as argument falls apart*
We've been doing that since before the TOS update. And people have been trying to scam us since before the TOS update. You act as though we never had to put up with it before.
Right now anyone can say that they had an agreement over skype for art, but since there is no public record of the agreement people can literally go around slandering people's names. There is no defense of an open agreement with third party validation. Artists not following through with art can no longer be held accountable to their public image, as they can simply deny that the agreement or transaction ever took place.
This has happened to me (And some others I know) in the past before, which is why I make sure that everything is very clearly explicitly known. Â If an artist gets paid and does not follow through, their public image is still kept since there was no easily validated appearance, aside from skype/3rd party contacts but at that point you are basically just screaming that you violated tos which beats the point of taking it to secret.
