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RE: Debates are not arguments |
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02-22-2015, 09:18 PM
I think it all boils down to what the actual goal behind the debate is. Often times, debates, especially about lore are entered with an agenda. May that be enforcing your own opinion as the proper one through provided arguments or to have someone else change their perception to something more akin to the oppositions side.

In itself, it isn't wrong as such. After all, Cohesion is a must for many in regards to Roleplay. And trying to get everyone on a similar page is quite beneficial aswell.

Usually, the difference between a debate and an argument lies in the tonality, and whether it has a moving agenda, and the degree of respect for the other person and the ability to not take the debate personally.

People can get defensive fast, and can presume a slight against a certain liberty with Canon lore to be akin to criticism to them, therein a prompt for them to not do it. Especially when it comes to lore, many people don't simply debate lore to find out what's right, they do it to be able to tell others that they should get their wrongs fixed.


In the end, it largely  depends on who you surround yourself with and how open the individuals you are with are to discussion. I personally come from communities where we'd argue and debate things to the death until a unified conclusion was achieved, and no one was upset or insulted by anyone participating in kind. However, there 'are' more frail minds out there, and to simply say 'they need to toughen' up is pretty redundant. They need to toughen up as much as you need to shut up, fact is, either consideration goes both ways or none.  This however only counts for Public channels and Linkshells.

If there's a thread titled "Discussing BLM in FFXIV", and you actively get into that topic trying to derail it with your sensitivities, and your 'personal hurt' in regards to what's said that, stay out of it. It is not a public channel, it is a discussion created for those willing to discuss it.

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Debates are not arguments - by Seriphyn - 02-22-2015, 04:44 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Ciel - 02-22-2015, 04:47 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Verranicus - 02-22-2015, 04:50 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Ciel - 02-22-2015, 05:12 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Kage - 02-22-2015, 05:13 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Hihimi - 02-22-2015, 04:50 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Faye - 02-22-2015, 05:00 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Gone. - 02-22-2015, 05:09 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Unnamed Mercenary - 02-22-2015, 05:16 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Kage - 02-22-2015, 05:22 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Seriphyn - 02-22-2015, 05:31 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Hihimi - 02-22-2015, 05:36 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Kage - 02-22-2015, 05:35 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Flashhelix - 02-22-2015, 05:50 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Gone. - 02-22-2015, 05:53 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Flashhelix - 02-22-2015, 05:59 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Gone. - 02-22-2015, 07:21 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Flashhelix - 02-22-2015, 07:25 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Hyakki - 02-22-2015, 08:03 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Gone. - 02-22-2015, 09:24 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Cato - 02-22-2015, 09:31 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Gaspard - 02-22-2015, 09:52 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Faye - 02-22-2015, 10:05 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Verranicus - 02-22-2015, 09:40 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Gone. - 02-22-2015, 10:25 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Atoli - 02-23-2015, 02:59 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by industrythirteen - 02-22-2015, 05:55 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Erik Mynhier - 02-22-2015, 06:44 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Kellach Woods - 02-22-2015, 06:16 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Seriphyn - 02-22-2015, 06:17 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by K'nahli - 02-22-2015, 06:55 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Maril - 02-22-2015, 06:59 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Parvacake - 02-22-2015, 07:11 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Tiergan - 02-22-2015, 07:25 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Virella - 02-22-2015, 08:17 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Cato - 02-22-2015, 08:25 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Verranicus - 02-22-2015, 08:44 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Sounsyy - 02-22-2015, 09:02 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Verranicus - 02-22-2015, 09:13 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Sounsyy - 02-22-2015, 10:08 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Faye - 02-22-2015, 10:14 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Verranicus - 02-22-2015, 11:20 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Gaspard - 02-22-2015, 09:18 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Cato - 02-22-2015, 09:18 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Kellach Woods - 02-22-2015, 09:25 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Gaspard - 02-22-2015, 09:30 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Cato - 02-22-2015, 10:13 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Khadan - 02-22-2015, 10:27 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Aaron - 02-22-2015, 10:31 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Kage - 02-22-2015, 11:24 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Gaspard - 02-22-2015, 11:30 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Tiergan - 02-22-2015, 11:36 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Kage - 02-22-2015, 11:44 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Unnamed Mercenary - 02-22-2015, 11:52 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Edvyn - 02-23-2015, 01:00 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Val - 02-23-2015, 01:10 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Aldotsk - 02-23-2015, 01:14 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Edvyn - 02-23-2015, 01:30 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Aldotsk - 02-23-2015, 01:33 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Edvyn - 02-23-2015, 01:38 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Verranicus - 02-23-2015, 07:23 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Aldotsk - 02-23-2015, 08:35 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by g0ne - 02-23-2015, 01:39 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Gone. - 02-23-2015, 03:31 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Cato - 02-23-2015, 08:39 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Ashren Dotharl - 02-23-2015, 08:45 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Khadan - 02-23-2015, 01:26 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Aldotsk - 02-23-2015, 08:55 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Cato - 02-23-2015, 08:58 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Cato - 02-23-2015, 09:23 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by FreelanceWizard - 02-23-2015, 09:23 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Aduu Avagnar - 02-23-2015, 09:26 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Edvyn - 02-23-2015, 09:29 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Ashren Dotharl - 02-23-2015, 10:58 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Kage - 02-23-2015, 09:28 AM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by Verad - 02-23-2015, 03:03 PM
RE: Debates are not arguments - by SessionZero - 02-23-2015, 03:33 PM

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