
(03-10-2015, 12:09 AM)hauntmedoitagain Wrote: Demon's Souls was better, anyway.
This thread has also done a good job of proving elitism is still alive and well in MMOs, though I must confess I expected better coming from roleplayers. Call it naive if you want, but I'm still disappointed either way.
Doth mine eyes deceive me, or does this post open with a subjective opinion before opining that subjective opinions are disappointing?
This whole thread was designed around classifying the myriad differences between any given individuals' definition of the term "elitist." From your post, though, it sounds as if you do not consider yourself elitist in any way? You're disappointed in us, after all. Surely you are above this.
Have you never been in a group that just can't pass simple mechanics? Have you ever wiped ad nauseum to Titan EX because your tanks can't figure out how to swap effectively? Wiped in Turn 5 repeatedly because that One Person always messes up Dive Bomb or Twister and kills everyone? Maybe you don't even do 8-person content, that's fine too.
Have you ever had a tank who can't hold hate? Had a run completely derailed because some healer couldn't or wouldn't do their job correctly? If you've ever felt frustrated by any means at the inadequacies of your party, there's a seed of elitism in you. You're not above it, no matter how you might like to posture yourself. In fact, one might say that your condescending and "above it all" tone paints you as an elitist yourself! Surely you can see the irony of coming in to a thread designed to define "elitism" in broad strokes and looking down on all of us from your ivory tower.
The truth of the matter is, in my opinion, that it comes down to standards. For any given number of people, a varying percent of them are going to hold the same values. Anyone number under that value and there's grounds for feeling like you're doing things more correctly than them. Any number over that value and there's grounds for feeling like you're the one being looked down upon. I'll expand on this.
Earlier, someone brought up that Harry Potter in Eorzea as a roleplay device. There's a group of ten people in the Quicksand. Two of them, named Harry Potter and Hermione Granger, are openly roleplaying their characters. If any one of the other eight point out this isn't canonical and ask/tell/whatever them to take it to party or go elsewhere, that person is an elitist. If anyone agrees with them, they're elitist.
There's ten people in the Quicksand. Two of them, named Warren and Vetiver, are roleplaying the Little Ladies' Event. Eight other people tell them "You can do that here, this is New Hogwarts, get out" and proceed to mock and make fun of the other two. These roleplayers are now elitist. And when those eight players go to a public event and get told not to roleplay such a concept, those eight people are now the victims of elitists.
All of this is subjective.
tl;dr: You're not better than any of us, you're literally being the thing that you think we're being.