OKAY, thank you Eva for so kindly searching out those links, and bringing them to the forefront. It is an eye opener to read them, and frankly it has pushed me into posting so soon after I just posted earlier today. This is it...this is the thread, the time, that we need to change. We are looking for change, we need to do it, and stop bickering and fussing over random things that hold no relevance to this situation. If nothing else, we are looking like we have nothing left to lose at this point. There is little to no faith amongst the different groups in the RPC, and on top of that, the well thought out discussions we have begun, very unfortunately devolve into less that human arguments over randomness. I think we need to stop that here, and make a decision here!
Continuing from this point on, we need to decide which of these ideas is clearly the best, and work towards them. When you post to the person before you, just leave out the comments that aren't relevant to the discussion, and only work from a place of growth. Tensions, egos, and opinions on anything else besides how we can change, and better our community need to be left at the door, and we need to get this moving or this thread like those before it will become pointless. If you feel that little nagging feeling over something someone said that you think is slightly offensive, ignore it, move on, feel in your self that what we are trying to do here IS important enough that our own sense of self will come second to the community from a leader's standpoint. I implore you this favor please! I truly want something to come of this community, and the only way we can do this is if the leaders gathered here work together, and make decisions so that Kylin can carry them out, and we can be better for it in the end, or else only sink a ship we've already sunk and be no worse off. I am begging again, please for those of us who are coming in, or coming back, who don't have a community to reach out to, but desperately want one!
Before I finish the groveling part of this post, I want to say that: I know how you all feel. I may not be a big shot here, I may have just come back from a long hiatus, and frankly I'm not technically even playing until next month, but I know what this is about. I've felt that little voice in my head that says: "Be angry!" "They insulted you! Be passive aggressive just to get under their skin...!!!", but having been the leader of many an RP group in the past, across many different fandoms, we as leaders need to know when that voice is of no use to us and our greater cause as Leaders. Please, please, please don't let this stop because of personal hurts or opinions, please let it continue and become a real action and not just fruitless words. We all deserve what is best for the community, so let us make it what it yearns to be, and let go of all other views! Side note: You don't have to mention this paragraph, you don't need to agree with me, you can read it and pretend you never heard for all I care, all I ask is that you sincerely listen to my words, and understand that I am not interested in taking power from anyone or giving power to people beyond inspiring real and good change. In fact, it is probably best if not one gives a word to this, as that will prompt others to agree or disagree on it, and that IS NOT what it is for, it is said to each individual, from me to you, not from me to a random group, so please understand it that way.
Enough of that, back to the "Let's do this yo!" part of this post. We have gathered a few talking points, things that have generally been agreed on, and could bring results which I have narrowed down to these:
~Clean it up! : Hence, we clean up the dead groups, clean up the overall look of the board by getting rid of some clutter possibly? Start with a cleaner slate than we've had in a while.
~Restructure it! : Hence, we restructure the way the board is run and the way it is organized. We regroup the guild area differently, possibly getting rid of the "levels of immersion", and maybe going with a simple "Sell our own points" approach, which is all still needing a bit more discussion and agreement. Secondly, (maybe) we create a board on which leaders from linkshells can organize and discuss what is needed when it is needed, that I think most people will probably hope that normal members can at least view and monitor on their own time. This group will have no power but to communicate and organize, possibly enough power to suggest things to Kylin to help better the board again should this come to further fruition, but any member of this forum has that ability here should they choose it. This should possibly have a sort of "Rules and Guidelines" in which we state what this leader's board is, how it works, basically outline it best so we can make sure it is doing what it's supposed to, and not what it isn't.
~Let's do it! : Hence, we actually do all that we say we are trying to do. Kylin, reads these posts, and the ones that Eva linked in, and takes what we will surely come to a decision on, and actually makes it happen! I know, again, let's discuss it more, but let's do it after we discuss it, and not dilly-dally shilly-shally all day over this nonsense when we know it needs to change. I took what Eva said to heart, she said that she saw everything, read it all, agreed with most of it, but wasn't sure what to do, and I think that is the point, it is the DOING that needs to be done to make this work! So let's band together and do this!
~Momo~
Continuing from this point on, we need to decide which of these ideas is clearly the best, and work towards them. When you post to the person before you, just leave out the comments that aren't relevant to the discussion, and only work from a place of growth. Tensions, egos, and opinions on anything else besides how we can change, and better our community need to be left at the door, and we need to get this moving or this thread like those before it will become pointless. If you feel that little nagging feeling over something someone said that you think is slightly offensive, ignore it, move on, feel in your self that what we are trying to do here IS important enough that our own sense of self will come second to the community from a leader's standpoint. I implore you this favor please! I truly want something to come of this community, and the only way we can do this is if the leaders gathered here work together, and make decisions so that Kylin can carry them out, and we can be better for it in the end, or else only sink a ship we've already sunk and be no worse off. I am begging again, please for those of us who are coming in, or coming back, who don't have a community to reach out to, but desperately want one!
Before I finish the groveling part of this post, I want to say that: I know how you all feel. I may not be a big shot here, I may have just come back from a long hiatus, and frankly I'm not technically even playing until next month, but I know what this is about. I've felt that little voice in my head that says: "Be angry!" "They insulted you! Be passive aggressive just to get under their skin...!!!", but having been the leader of many an RP group in the past, across many different fandoms, we as leaders need to know when that voice is of no use to us and our greater cause as Leaders. Please, please, please don't let this stop because of personal hurts or opinions, please let it continue and become a real action and not just fruitless words. We all deserve what is best for the community, so let us make it what it yearns to be, and let go of all other views! Side note: You don't have to mention this paragraph, you don't need to agree with me, you can read it and pretend you never heard for all I care, all I ask is that you sincerely listen to my words, and understand that I am not interested in taking power from anyone or giving power to people beyond inspiring real and good change. In fact, it is probably best if not one gives a word to this, as that will prompt others to agree or disagree on it, and that IS NOT what it is for, it is said to each individual, from me to you, not from me to a random group, so please understand it that way.
Enough of that, back to the "Let's do this yo!" part of this post. We have gathered a few talking points, things that have generally been agreed on, and could bring results which I have narrowed down to these:
~Clean it up! : Hence, we clean up the dead groups, clean up the overall look of the board by getting rid of some clutter possibly? Start with a cleaner slate than we've had in a while.
~Restructure it! : Hence, we restructure the way the board is run and the way it is organized. We regroup the guild area differently, possibly getting rid of the "levels of immersion", and maybe going with a simple "Sell our own points" approach, which is all still needing a bit more discussion and agreement. Secondly, (maybe) we create a board on which leaders from linkshells can organize and discuss what is needed when it is needed, that I think most people will probably hope that normal members can at least view and monitor on their own time. This group will have no power but to communicate and organize, possibly enough power to suggest things to Kylin to help better the board again should this come to further fruition, but any member of this forum has that ability here should they choose it. This should possibly have a sort of "Rules and Guidelines" in which we state what this leader's board is, how it works, basically outline it best so we can make sure it is doing what it's supposed to, and not what it isn't.
~Let's do it! : Hence, we actually do all that we say we are trying to do. Kylin, reads these posts, and the ones that Eva linked in, and takes what we will surely come to a decision on, and actually makes it happen! I know, again, let's discuss it more, but let's do it after we discuss it, and not dilly-dally shilly-shally all day over this nonsense when we know it needs to change. I took what Eva said to heart, she said that she saw everything, read it all, agreed with most of it, but wasn't sure what to do, and I think that is the point, it is the DOING that needs to be done to make this work! So let's band together and do this!
~Momo~
