(03-27-2015, 01:43 PM)Graeham Ridgefield Wrote: Even when it comes to role-players who are genuinely new it's not always their fault when they give up after repeated failed attempts to find what they're looking for.
No one said it was. Fault isn't the topic here. Assigning blame isn't, either.
Identification of what, exactly, folks are having trouble with, and how those of us who are available to help can help them is ideally what's up for discussion. Communication here isn't a two-way street, it's a town square with folks standing around all over the place.
I'd love to hear more from newer members of the community and members who aren't new but are still trying to break through. What I'd like to hear more of is:
1. What they've tried.
2. What they haven't tried.
3. What they think might help them.
4. What they think isn't helping them.
I'm also fully aware that many of us get side-tracked onto conversations and lose the ball when people are posting the above. Going to go looking back through this thread for anyone who mentioned they were having trouble and yet didn't get addressed.
EDIT: A small note, wailing about how difficult it is to break out into the community at large doesn't help anyone. We know it's difficult. This isn't anything against you, Graeham, I'm just pointing out that "this is so hard" is a common complaint I see, but it's not really anything someone can build off of or help with.