(04-16-2015, 04:35 PM)Yssen Wrote: 1. While the Archbishop video can be a good source, it really only proves that there are only Elezen in that chamber with the Archbishop for whatever ceremony is going on. Using it as proof that there are no miqo in it and thus no miqo in the Ishgardian military would also mean that there are no other races other than Elezen in the Ishgardian military. Which we know to be incorrect. Natalie has the right of it here. It only serves as proof that there are only Elezen in that presentation, for whatever reason.Â
*cough*racism*cough*
EDIT: To clarify, I'm of the opinion that only Elezen were present in that scene because the Ishgardians present a very xenophobic front that implies a trend of racism among its populace. I would not be surprised to learn that only Elezen knights are permitted in the presence of the Holy See / Isghardian archbishop or pope / whatever the nomenclature for the Head of Ishgard is.
(04-16-2015, 04:35 PM)Yssen Wrote: 2. Assuming that the Dragoons are the most prestigious thing to come out of Ishgard is quite the assumption. There is no evidence that they are more prestigious than the Temple Knights. If they were the end all be all of Ishgard's forces, why were none of them present (other than the Azure Dragoon) for the battle at the Steps of Faith? The Temple Knights were the only elite forces in that engagement. This would seem to reflect that both orders are on somewhat equal footing as far as being elite goes. If you are not going to toss out a bunch of Dragoons when a giant dagron attacks, when are you going to throw them out?
It was very clearly and specifically mentioned that the conflict which Steps of Faith represents is but one of many happening at the same time as the dragons assault Ishgard. Where were the rest of the dragoons? Fending off those simultaneous attacks, I'd wager.
(04-16-2015, 04:35 PM)Intaki Wrote: Alright, have some links:
To begin, the quest involving the man looking for a promotion can be found here: http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/The_Bone_Collector
I have gone to get his flavor text after the quest is resolved which you can find here: http://i.imgur.com/4rhbAe6.jpg
Note how he describes the Temple Knights as "the pinnacle".
Could argue that his choice of diction is because he's twiddling his thumbs out in the middle of Coerthas instead of in Ishgard defending the homeland.
(04-16-2015, 04:35 PM)Intaki Wrote: The quest I was remembering didn't involve dead dragoons, but moreso dumb dragoons who needed some liquid courage to make a run for it: http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Days_o..._Behemoths
(04-16-2015, 04:35 PM)Intaki Wrote: And finally as an added bonus, a quest about a dragoon that took a fall and got stuck on a cliffside ledge and needs a rope to climb up (possibly pertinent to the discussion of what caliber dragoon can do the fancy jumps, but I don't remember if the man was injured or not): http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Living_on_the_Edge
These are bizarre oddities. I can only conclude that "dragoon" then is a general term used for a specific caliber of knights, as previously suggested, with those in drachen mail being the elite.
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