Spoilering this because it's veering off-topic.
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Thaumaturge vs Black Mage and Conjury stuff
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So I'm not actually saying you're wrong about this, but I'm actually really curious where you got the whole Thaumaturge does a 'push/pull' in taking Aether from the world to 'recharge' thing. I just read through a lot of the quest dialogue, and nowhere is that mentioned; only that Thaumaturge's Aether comes from within (I've got a buttload of quest quotes about that) and that the way to replenish it is either taking a break, or drinking Ether, all with emphasis on the self. It's interesting, but I just don't remember it and can't find it anywhere. Was this a 1.0 thing? Where did you get this information, or is it just your own interpretation?
Also, yeah, Black Mage is essentially taking an additional source beyond just the self, and is somewhat of a branch from what Thaumaturgey is capable of, and I agree that Black Magery is a lot more extreme. But I still don't remember anywhere I've seen that Thaumaturgey takes Aether from the world.
Edit: I can't speak for Arcanist, as I've been pretty curious where their Aether comes from too; I'd only gotten vague ideas, and nothing concrete on origin, other than the geometries. I'd always thought it was more from the self too, but I could be wrong.
The Cure thing is a personal character choice, and I have a lot more reasons than just solely that for why it doesn't sit well with Xavarian. Sometimes problems compound onto other problems. It's mostly interpretation on my end, but I feel like Conjury and Thaumaturgey have some fundamental differences in the way they use and channel Aether, so I merely reflect that in RP based on the Conjury lore I've seen.
(04-16-2015, 08:35 PM)Kyrrae Lminia Wrote: I would have to heavily disagree on your interpretation of THM. It works the same way as BLM, difference being that BLM pulls a lot more. The reason the THM questline puts an emphasis on your personal mana amount is because THM requires the most base mana to cast destructive spells.
Perhaps you misinterpreted what I meant. THM/BLM doesn't just pull energy from the world around them and use it, that's ACN department. What they do is they use their internal reserves, then pull from the earth around them to refill, then expel it again. They're a capacitor in essence. They pull in, push out, pull in, push out.
(04-16-2015, 08:58 PM)Kyrrae Lminia Wrote: Also in reference to THM/BLM being the same concept, keep in mind that all jobs are simply more complex derivations of their base class. They keep the same types of action, but with advanced techniques tacked on. Examine for yourself and you'll see.
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So I'm not actually saying you're wrong about this, but I'm actually really curious where you got the whole Thaumaturge does a 'push/pull' in taking Aether from the world to 'recharge' thing. I just read through a lot of the quest dialogue, and nowhere is that mentioned; only that Thaumaturge's Aether comes from within (I've got a buttload of quest quotes about that) and that the way to replenish it is either taking a break, or drinking Ether, all with emphasis on the self. It's interesting, but I just don't remember it and can't find it anywhere. Was this a 1.0 thing? Where did you get this information, or is it just your own interpretation?
Also, yeah, Black Mage is essentially taking an additional source beyond just the self, and is somewhat of a branch from what Thaumaturgey is capable of, and I agree that Black Magery is a lot more extreme. But I still don't remember anywhere I've seen that Thaumaturgey takes Aether from the world.
Edit: I can't speak for Arcanist, as I've been pretty curious where their Aether comes from too; I'd only gotten vague ideas, and nothing concrete on origin, other than the geometries. I'd always thought it was more from the self too, but I could be wrong.
(04-16-2015, 08:58 PM)Kyrrae Lminia Wrote: Also, a few cures now and then won't hurt anyone. It's the constant use that becomes an issue. However, for a thaumaturge, they could cast cure like no tomorrow if they like, as long as they take the time to refill. The issue with cnj is that they don't have any kind of spell to recover their own mana. Only whm does, and that's an advanced secret technique, like all whm, and it still takes time.
The Cure thing is a personal character choice, and I have a lot more reasons than just solely that for why it doesn't sit well with Xavarian. Sometimes problems compound onto other problems. It's mostly interpretation on my end, but I feel like Conjury and Thaumaturgey have some fundamental differences in the way they use and channel Aether, so I merely reflect that in RP based on the Conjury lore I've seen.
