(04-17-2015, 02:50 PM)Kage Wrote:(04-17-2015, 02:45 PM)Kayllen Wrote:Did you miss how -none- of the lore answer ever, ever mentions a difficulty in biology? It -clearly states, AND I BOLDED FOR YOU, -cultural- differences. CULTURAL. It can't be any clearer. They even make a point of MAKING A 3.0 QUEST, IMPLYING ISHGARDIAN ISSUE, about a cross-racial couple.(04-17-2015, 02:41 PM)Kage Wrote:(04-17-2015, 02:39 PM)Kayllen Wrote: I wasn't talking about cross breeds. That's been established as a rarity for a long time, now.You were talking about evidence of cultural racisim.
That's the main one.
That... what?
No that's only evidence of difficulty between biology. It's harder to produce offspring between races because conception is supposedly more difficult or some such thing.
And again, for the third time now, because $race 'in general' dislikes or has had troubles with $other-race, does not -IN ANY WAY- define systematic CULTURAL racism in the nation that is at the heart of the current discussion. There is -no evidence- of this. If you would like to continue to assert otherwise please provide proofs.
You mean, how elezen and hyur have been in bloody racial wars?
What is more proof than Lore answers from lore peoples?
(04-17-2015, 02:34 PM)Kage Wrote:Quote:Lore about conflicts between Hyur and Elezen?
-Tension between races because bloody history between them. They never made up but put aside their issues. They don't really like each. They just put up with each other because common enemy. In beginning of the 6AE the Elezen migrated back in, then hyur migrated and tried to take Elezen lands. Clashing and moving apart - gets ingrained in their society. Lalafell will rise on occasion and attack other races, for example. In 3.0 we will have half-races. But they are treated different. Quest will come to explain.Quote:Cross-racial?
-adventurers come from different land. From places slightly more “progressive.†Live together but separate. Hyur and elezen had wars. A lot of bad blood between races. Recently races to come together in single nations. Cross Racial is possible, but it doesn’t happen a lot. It’s a cultural thing. 3.0 there will be a cross-racial union.
Taken from this thread answered almost 4 years ago
Quote:Can different races crossbreed?
Answer: Yes, but it is rare...and often difficult due to cultural differences, etc. which is why you don't see it often. The lore team has informed me that there will be future quests/events that touch on this and other issues, such as love and marriage.
Edit: I'm truly not understanding the walling about it. Is this, "well that's a mainly Eorzean case, I'm talking about Ishgard."
If it's Ishgard, where I assume these issues have come about, isn't this supportive? Isn't the fact that Fern has made a point, that the dev team has made a quest in 3.0 about cross-racial couples being an issue, supportive? Not to mention the fact that they've said in these answers that it's cultural.
Calm down. Okay so there's no biological issue cited, I guess, though they could be there, we don't know and it's not a topic I really tread often because... meh? Anyway the whole rest of this isn't in any way supportive of "Isghardians are racist". It's a logical leap that you'd need a pole vault to get across at this point. What you could assert, though, is that "An Ishgardian $person having offspring with a non-Ishgardian $person could be looked down on because non-Ishgardian $person is an 'outsider'" The only thing that is consistent here is "outsider".
I don't deal in conjecture, sir. I deal in logical conclusions drawn from actual data.
