IIRC it's publisher what determines the cut they want to take for themselves beyond the standard Valve cut. In this case, it's Zenimax being complete dicks but by having Valve straight up put the power in the hands of the publisher it kinda ensured that the modder themselves would get screwed.
I don't personally care (I don't often play games that would be very much improved with mods or work well with the workshop) but it looks like an abusive practice with a pittance to the mod developer to pacify them.
Also, it's a legal nightmare that modders have almost no defenses against. Wheeeeeee. I can't wait to see Modder vs. Zenimax go to actual court when the inevitable "fuck over the little guy" part happens. Oh wait, the modder's not living on the North American continent and all litigation has to be handled by the court of California? WHOOPS.
Oh, even better - who do I send my freelance worker bill to after paying and testing a blatantly unfinished mod? I'm not doing QA work for free since I am actually a paid professional in that field.
Valve has never had a single thought for the ramifications of what they're doing. I know I'm being facetious with most of these scenarios (especially the one involving QA work I mean if even regular devs don't want to pay for QA work imagine modders!) but it's just stuff off my head that could and likely will happen.
Ultradavid's probably thinking to himself that he'll need to expand with all this shit going on.
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I kinda lol at the proposition that they'd release the sixth one free. Sure they stand to make good money on mods, but you're deluding yourself that they can make the kind of money they would by just straight up releasing the game at 60/70$ and THEN charging for mods.
Voting with your wallet only works locally, where your "vote" "matters". Otherwise, you need concerted action because technically everyone votes with their wallet - this thread being a perfect example.
I don't personally care (I don't often play games that would be very much improved with mods or work well with the workshop) but it looks like an abusive practice with a pittance to the mod developer to pacify them.
Also, it's a legal nightmare that modders have almost no defenses against. Wheeeeeee. I can't wait to see Modder vs. Zenimax go to actual court when the inevitable "fuck over the little guy" part happens. Oh wait, the modder's not living on the North American continent and all litigation has to be handled by the court of California? WHOOPS.
Oh, even better - who do I send my freelance worker bill to after paying and testing a blatantly unfinished mod? I'm not doing QA work for free since I am actually a paid professional in that field.
Valve has never had a single thought for the ramifications of what they're doing. I know I'm being facetious with most of these scenarios (especially the one involving QA work I mean if even regular devs don't want to pay for QA work imagine modders!) but it's just stuff off my head that could and likely will happen.
Ultradavid's probably thinking to himself that he'll need to expand with all this shit going on.
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I kinda lol at the proposition that they'd release the sixth one free. Sure they stand to make good money on mods, but you're deluding yourself that they can make the kind of money they would by just straight up releasing the game at 60/70$ and THEN charging for mods.
Voting with your wallet only works locally, where your "vote" "matters". Otherwise, you need concerted action because technically everyone votes with their wallet - this thread being a perfect example.
