(04-30-2015, 09:05 PM)Natalie Mcbeef Wrote: "If you fail to tone it down a bit or back out of a topic when it's clear that you're beginning to offend people rather than simply disagree with them, then you are venturing into punishable territory."
What if you offend someone simply by disagreeing with them?
I just think it's ok if someone reads a post and goes 'This makes me mad'.
I don't think people should get warnings for not always wording things in the most proscribed way. I think the focus should be on posting that impacts the discussion or is needlessly targeting an individual. For example spamming, personal attacks that have nothing to do with the situation at hand, posting non related things to stop a conversation.
If something is offensive to someone, but is appropriate to the conversation at hand, and doesn't personally attack another poster. My reaction would be "So what?"
As others have said, policing offence is just a road we shouldn't go down.
No no, you'll always find a way to offend someone. There's no really avoiding that and there's no sure way to keep everyone from feeling targeted at one point or another. The key word in that example was the plural. Having said that, even if your point is entirely legitimate and a single person is getting agitated about it then please do at least consider paying closer attention to how you word your next posts and/or clarify that you are not trying to be difficult/rude.
(04-30-2015, 09:09 PM)Edvyn Wrote: if something is pointless why is it bad to call that thing pointless?
would it be considered reasonable to say "this has no point"? because that's what pointless means anyway
what about asking "where is your point"? or "i don't see a point"? this also pretty much means the same thing
pointless shouldn't be considered a rude word, even if used frequently - it's a valid descriptor in many cases, and people who are offended by being told their post was pointless should probably get a clearer point
It's subjective to context. Though you are right that it can very often be a legitimate comment that I am sure I have said plenty of times myself. I was simply referring to it in the circumstances where you are attempting to rudely discredit a poster or their topic and very possibly antagonise them.
(04-30-2015, 09:46 PM)ArmachiA Wrote: Offended is not the same as offensive. I'm not sure if your being deliberately obtuse or what, but at this point it seems there isn't any reasoning with you.
I edit all the time just to make sure my post is clear, I highly doubt I'll be punished for it. Now you're just looking for arguments.
I think Natalie has legitimate concerns. Please give her the benefit of the doubt, I can see how certain things can be quite unclear.
(04-30-2015, 09:25 PM)Natalie Mcbeef Wrote: Because editing posts is also punishable <_<
(04-30-2015, 10:01 PM)Natalie Mcbeef Wrote: However if someone makes a point that ends up generating a warning, and then they edit it later, even if it's because they changed their mind, suddenly that becomes an offence. I was never saying that someone making grammatical corrections is punishable.
Changing a post that says something offensive, mean, rulebreaking, into one that does not break the rules IS against the rules.
As far as I understand.
No, you misunderstand. In fact, altering a post because people didn't like it's phrasing or were misinterpreting it would be highly encouraged. If people were reporting you for making a very vicious and rude post or two, however, and you denied having said anything of the sort, then you are covering your own trail to try and evade repercussions for stepping out of line. That's what is against the rules.
Think of it like creating an alternate account just to make a flame post.
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