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RE: Disaster! SE just ruined your headcanon! |
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05-07-2015, 06:42 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-07-2015, 06:43 PM by Khadan.)
(05-07-2015, 04:25 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(05-07-2015, 04:12 PM)Kayllen Wrote: This discussion is pretty enjoyable, so far!

Doing pretty good at bat so far, so mind if I throw a curveball?

Newly revealed Ishgardian lore states that Dragoons and Temple Knights are entirely different factions: If a family line blossoms a dragoon, their line can never be temple knights and vice versa.

What happens to your family history?

Disclosure: If anyone has a link to your wiki in their signature, I've probably read it.

Woo a lot to catch up on. Those nachos were good, too. 

ANYWAY I'll have to do a couple of posts so apologies ahead of time. 

This is a fairly good hypothetical, actually. Though I would pose that the simplest counter would be for a Dragoon bloodline to marry into a Temple Knight bloodline and thus negating said distinction. Though of course the counter-counter would be to make it matriarchal/patriarchal and that's how its decided, etc.

As for Kayllen in that situation there's probably a couple of possibilities though for the sake of the exercise we'll go with "how do I keep things more or less the 'same' as they are now with these conditions". I would say that since his Father was a Temple Knight of substantial rank, obviously no Aymeric but enough to command his own force (Captain, perhaps?) then him joining the Temple Knights so far seems pretty on point. Later after the fall of the Blades of Halone (the name of the Temple Knights regiment he was in) he fled to the desert on orders from his Father to one day expose the betrayal that led them to ruin etc. At this point he is no longer a Temple Knight and, in fact, isn't really even 'alive' as far as the bureaucracy of Ishgard is concerned. All their Temple Knights were wiped out, the unit disbanded, and the family's resources that were tied to that were put elsewhere.

Later when he returns to Ishgard or, rather, was forced to return because of 'circumstances' having to do with a rogue branch of the Faces of Mercy trying to kick off a war between the Eorzean Alliance and Ishgard he has to be re-acknowledged by the court and his family in order to be considered 'alive' and not an imposter or some such thing. Though having his faction of TK's disbanded still leaves him without a unit and having been written off as dead, the best thing he can hope for is to basically have no 'job' waiting for him back in Ishgard as far as the TK's are concerned. Besides, at worst he's been AWOL/MIA/KIA for 6-7 years, that's a hefty punishment if they chose to go that route. 

With him moving towards Dragoon these days due to 'acquiring' his Sister's soulstone which was their Grandfather's (which I suspect is part of the caveat of the questioning and it's easy enough to make it a distant relative or just not a relative's soul stone at all. The grandfather thing was just a nice twist in the family legacy story arc, anyway =P) I would say that in order to maintain his plot with him staying an aspiring Dragoon he would likely have to renounce any familial ties and become 'houseless'. He was already legally 'dead' and his Mother has denounced/renounced/disowned him anyway, leaving him out of the bloodline and so on. At this point I would say that, even though unconventional, he would still have a claim to be a Dragoon. 

Quick point of order, too, is that SE would have to retcon the lore tidbit that basically any Isghardian(?) that kills a dragon (I suspect it has to be a substantial dragon like Naul-type) is technically awarded the title "Dragoon". Though how they go from "guy who killed a dragon once" to "Jumping around ZOOMING Dragoon" is still unknown. Here's hoping we find out soon, though! =P

Sorry for the lengthy reply!

Kayllen "Grimm" Stormbringer: Ishgardian, Bounty Hunter, Former Temple Knight
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Disaster! SE just ruined your headcanon! - by Warren Castille - 05-07-2015, 10:00 AM
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